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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: David555 on November 06, 2005, 02:58:06 AM
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Hi all - some pieces I have bought in last week or so
A lovely coloured Vasart V015 - 2.75” high, 3.25” across with excellent label – I love labels
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/vasartv015.jpg
A quite common Vasart B028 – 6.5” across – I do love these colours
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/vasartb028.jpg
Now this is a more difficult for me, it looks like a Monart UB shape Bowl, heavy with typical prominent pontil, but are these colours right. Size 12” diam, 5” high
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ub1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ub2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ub3.jpg
This looks like a B029 bowl in every way, well it’s marked up ‘Vasart’ in the right way, but I have not got one with this style of mottling to base and streaking in green and purple/black around the main circular body- has lots of aventurine as you can see – 7.25” diam, 2.2” high
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/b029.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/b0292.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/b0293.jpg
Any help appreciated
Adam P
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Bowl is not Monart, colour looks more like Strathearn but could be something else too!
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Thanks Frank
I was suspicious because of the colours, but it seems old, there is a lot of ware to the base c1930's to 1960s (?)
Amazing, it is so like a UB Monart bowl as posted on your website but I am aware older shapes were made through to the 1970s and that Monart shapes were adapted to Vasart and then Strathearn
So you think maybe Strathearn, but could be something different, I am intrigued?
Do you think a copy or another company?
I bought for over £120.00 as a Vasart thinking maybe Monart knowing the UB shapes but have told my dealer I would be returning for a refund if it turned out to be Strathearn or a copy (he is OK that way). I don't have anything against Strathearn, but the vases and bowls are not going to be the main feature of my collection if I can help it.
The pontil rod is very prominent and has a lot of age ware to it. If Strathearn is that pontil OK, I have studied the pages on your site but am still a bit unsure of Strathearn use of this type of rod before they started using the leaping salmon mark?
What about the Green bowl Frank, is it a Vasart B029 - as said I have not seen this mottling and striation before, and I have a few of these bowls in different sizes, none has the aventurine?
Always thankful of your knowledge and help
Adam P
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UB and B009 are similar but have no record of Strathearn making it, could be early Strathearn or the glass was too thin to apply the seal.
The differences are too subtle to say for sure from photos, the seal could be ground off - it happened to a lot of Strathearn to pass as Monart.
Very Nazeing like bubbles! Perhaps the work of a trainee... JA or JD but just a possibility.
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Hi Frank
Ref the large bowl I have some really good pictures of the pontil.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/mv1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/mv2.jpg
Base diameter 5" approx / Pontil 1.6" diam, 0.8cm in height (flat squashed and then ground down with a few bubbles left open on surface).
They show I (am sure) that no leaping salmon mark was ground away, it is a round pontil that has been roughly filed down to just the right point, it actually nearly touches the table it is so prominent.
Also, there is no where on the bowl that the glass is thin, it weighs over 2 kilos.
This not my questioning your judgement, I agree it is too strange a colour for Monart but maybe Vasart or Strathearn as you mention? I paid a lot for it (with a definite ‘label written’ attribution as Vasart/Monart) as an investment and would like to take it back for a refund if it is not Vasart at least, It was too expensive for Strathearn.
When taking back I never quote any sources, I don't have to, I buy so much from this guy he just takes stuff back and usually changes the label on my advice.
I agree with the green bowl, I am sure it is Vasart the mark is right, but Nazeing is what I thought until I saw all the aventurine, and remembered there are some very transparent blotchy pieces of Vasart around, I have had some like this before.
All best
Adam P