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Title: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on January 02, 2010, 01:48:33 PM: Any suggestions on the maker of this Glasgow registered design, pressed glass item?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300359831078
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Bernard C on January 02, 2010, 07:33:12 PM: Frank — The registration mark doesn't shout one particular glassworks to me.

Bernard C. 8)
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on January 02, 2010, 09:08:58 PM: It doesn't shout any glassworks to me, hence the question. Can't even id the registrant. If it was produced in Scotland then the number one candidate is West Lothian Flint Glassworks and number 2 City Flint Glassworks. But no particular reason it was made in Scotland. The pattern is quite distinctive though.
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: pamela on January 03, 2010, 01:46:18 PM: Frank, counting the wickerwork of 3 horizontal and 1 vertical: Sowerby perhaps?
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: ChrisStewart on January 04, 2010, 06:39:12 PM: Hi All,

wasn't Ellis Allan & Co a glass house?

Regards

Chris
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on January 04, 2010, 07:01:56 PM: Not that I can find... I suspect a merchant. Have you heard of them then?
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: ChrisStewart on January 04, 2010, 07:15:20 PM: Hi Frank,

The design for this basket (1877) was registered to:

Ellis Allan & Co
Forth Glassworks
Firhill Road
Glasgow

The Raymond Notley's book has an 1889 advert for

A M Allan & Co
forth Glassworks
Firhill Road
Glasgow

So it looks like the Allan were a family of glass makers.

Regards

Chris
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on January 04, 2010, 07:31:23 PM: I had dismissed them despite the name connection as they are listed as a bottle works in my sources. Although significantly pressed glass bottles ten years earlier according to an unreliable source (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=55&limit=30&limitstart=30)on SG - so thanks Chris :-) Glad I bought it now :chky:
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on January 07, 2010, 01:19:36 AM: It is a honeypot and supposed to have a lid :'(

Forth Glass closed down in 1924

In 1907 they were involved in domestic glassware, seemingly for a lot longer longer too. Time to start hunting for more from them.
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: neilh on May 05, 2022, 01:01:00 PM: This thread is lacking a picture so here we go for item... Ellis Allan 1877
Height 2.5 inches
Width 3.5 inches
Density check shows no lead in the glass
Title: Re: Pressed glass 1877 design but who made it?
Post by: Frank on May 19, 2022, 07:59:09 PM: Jill Turnbull in 'From Goblets to Gaslights' 2017 devotes a chapter to Forth Glass Works and illustrates two of the honeypots in clear and white with a cone shaped lid. 3 pages of their 1884 catalogue too.