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Title: pate de verre take 2
Post by: azelismia on January 07, 2010, 07:57:02 AM
I am not sure this is pate de verre but I think it's a good candidate. it's marked. I don't know the mark though.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre003.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre006.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre007.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre008.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre009.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre010.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre023.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre024.jpg

thoughts?
Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: pamela on January 07, 2010, 08:55:20 AM
Looks as if made of soapstone, and the mark is a chinese character I suppose - Steven help please!?
 8)
Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: azelismia on January 07, 2010, 09:24:47 AM
it does have that look, but the inside of it looks very like glass to me. It also feels like glass. It could just be heavily shellacked I suppose.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/glassnotebook/patedeverre022.jpg

I could be entirely wrong here (and probably am) I haven't handled that much soapstone and no pate de verre.


this type of styling isn't what I think of when I think of carved soapstone...

But it really could be. Both mediums are entirely out of my normal scope of operation :)
Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: Frank on January 07, 2010, 09:49:09 AM
More likely resin. The colour of the inside is to even and the carving to much for a modern piece and the finish outside not polished enough for an old piece. More like an alabaster imitation than soapstone. With other possibilities being Africa and South America. Signature is not very chinese to me.

It would not be impossible, though very difficult, to cast such a piece with pate de verre but to achieve that colouring near impossible.

Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: Andy on January 07, 2010, 09:54:27 AM
This would be your choice of course, i would think if its soapstone, you should be able
to scrach it ,or if resin as Frank suggests, maybe a hot needle will smoke and make a hole, do these things
on the base or hidden area?
Bit risky maybe, but may help to find out, i would think if glass these things shoudnt ::)
do anything at all.
Good luck
Andy
Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: Mosquito on January 07, 2010, 10:30:09 AM
The mark has some strokes which look Chinese, though the whole is not a recogniseable Chinese Character. I'd guess it's some form of monogram using the Roman alphabet which has been stylised to give an oriental look.
Title: Re: pate de verre take 2
Post by: azelismia on January 07, 2010, 04:57:37 PM
At first I was thinking to my self, what an ass for buying this. lol but now, this topic is proving so interesting I am glad I bought it. I'll try those things. I too think the sig looks more like a western monograph or cipher than chinese. it looks like an l and a b or an i and a b or something like that to me.