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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on January 07, 2010, 08:17:16 PM
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I have what I am pretty certain is a Whitefriars 9539 vase but colour wise it looks brown until you put it under a strong light and then I can see a sort of hint of green in it perhaps making it khaki (I thought it might be cinnamon but OH says he sees it as green when under light) but I really wouldn't call it true green. Having looked through the catalogues, I can't see that it came in a khaki/green shade colour at all :-\ . Mind you I know nothing about W/F at all and have only a few pieces. Would anyone know if it did? In all other respects size shape and polished base wise it seems to be right. oh it has a ground and polished rim (I think that is the right description :spls:quite thick rim 4mm and flat).
Any help very much appreciated. Thank you.
m
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I think we need a picture taken in daylight. But here is a colour guide http://www.whitefriars.com/colours.php
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If it is Pat 9539, this was made in Arctic Blue, Ocean Green and Twilight. The colour you are describing sounds like Twilight, but a photo would obviously confirm it.
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Pics duly added although my pic taking is not the best ;D
I think the colour is fairly well represented in the full vase pic, but it probably is less brown than indicated in teh close ups of the base/casing.
Many thanks
m
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Have you listed it on whitefriars.com? The colour and shape (although similiar) to me says no. Although it could just be the way the colour is showing up on the pics. Seems more like an amberish/brown colour but a little to deep for whitefriars. I am thinking no, but another confirmation on this would probably be good.
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My feel is that it's not 9539, and the colour is wrong for WF, but it would be good to see what Emmi thinks (as author of the whitefriars.com colour guide :hiclp:).
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http://whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=4348
Hi Kane
I did query over the depth of the casing v the catalogue picture as well, but then saw this on the identified section.
m
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The shape & proportions seem different as well, though.
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I had a quick look at that one to. I like to compare the pics against each other to get a better comparision. The shape is very similiar to yours, and yes, in the black and white photos it is deceiving as the base looks like it should be clear glass. I still feel no on this one. The colour just doesn't seem right and i would have to agree with Cathy, the shape seems a little of. What is the height of your piece? As you did not mention this.
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http://whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=7723
Sorry was trying to post this as well - the size is correct 7 3/8 " exactly. The rim is just over 1 5/8th" and the diameter of the base is 1 1/2".
thanks to all :)
m
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The height is good for this piece. List it on whitefriars.com just to be sure on this one, but my thoughts are still no.
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Thanks Kane
:)
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And wait for Emmi, who'll know for sure.
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Hi, I have one in Twilight I will take a photo tomorrow and you can compare, is the colour a true likeness does look a little Brown for Twilight, some similar Scandinavian pieces around, recommend you post it on Whitefriars.com too.
Chris
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Just got back to this thread. I do think the shape is right, but the colour which should be Twilight, does look odd in the photos. But it could just be the settings which have distorted the colour.(or maybe an odd colour batch on the day it was made) perhaps?
Here's one I found currently on ebay, and which clearly shows the Twilight colour.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Whitefriars-vase-No-9539-Twilight_W0QQitemZ380193086179
They were made only in three solid colours Ocean Green, Arctic Blue and Twilight despite the catalogue photo which makes it look as if they were produced in cased colours, very deceptive! See catalogue link here:
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=358
Certainly there are some Scandi look-a-likes around, but I do feel this one is WF.
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thank you all for your information - it is much appreciated.
Emmi, thanks for taking the time to look again and provide more info as well.
The pic you showed looks a dark grey/green to me on my monitor- is twilight a dark grey/green? I would say my photos make mine look a lot more brown than it is in reality apart from down the sides of the full pic vase which look quite good - that's having looked again in daylight (sorry just had to get to work today finally ;D so no time to take pics in daylight). But that said ...it is definitely still a green with a brown hint, not a green with a dark grey hint if ykwim? Other than that I think it looks the same as the catalogue pics and the other link pics when seen in real life.
I only have 4 pieces of w/f two of which I'm not keen on (ribbon trails, sapphire and sea green) and one ruby knobbly, so I have nothing to compare to.
I hope it is W/f, that would be very pleasing :)
m
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ah, managed a pic that I think is more representative of colour.
I think having looked at all the comparisons that the casing on mine is not as deep?
m
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That photo is spot on. Well done! Twilight is a tricky colour for some people who may see a lot of green and /or grey in it and it also seems to vary depending on thickness of the glass. I have one piece which always looks grey in a photo, thick walled and impossible to capture its true colour. As for my description of the colour........LOL! Either greenish brown or brownish green! ::)
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Not bother posting a photo, got the colour right, 100% Whitefriars Twilight
Chris
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:hiclp:
thank you both so much - I am delighted. And thanks to all for helping.
m