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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: pamela on November 10, 2005, 09:10:20 PM
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http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/misc/02986.html
how about this lamp vase - sure it is a WMF study
:idea: :?:
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Hmmmmm - it does not look like any WMF technique I've ever seen, it has more of a French deco feel. The electric fitting has to be WMF - I recognise that. Is the edge flanged to match the screw fitting - or straight up and drilled?
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Ivo, sorry your quest goes beyond my English and E-fit knowledge :cry:
may I write in German here please
die Zuleitung (Kabel) ist textilummantelt, der 4-Wege-Schalter ist WMF original Bakelit, die Glühbirnenfassung ist auch original WMF
what is:
flanged
drilled
in this one?
to return to your glass http://tinypic.com/fjizbd.jpg
I just had this déjà-vu of techniques
BW PW
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Ob die Vase als Vase gebaut wurde, also mit geradem Hals, oder als Lampenfuss mit Flansch om die Abdeckhaube zu montieren? Im ersten FAlle wurde in dem Hals wahrscheinlich Löcher nachgebohrt... Montur ist ja eindeutig Ikora, aber Fuss glaube ich nicht. :P
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Ich abschraube morgen die WMF montage und schaue Ivo , ob es eine Flansch gibt
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IMHO this lamp also is a proof for acid etched as Ivo's http://tinypic.com/fjizbd.jpg is ;o)
Uploaded two more this evening
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/misc/02986.html
Ivo, is this the 'Flansch' necessary to be WMF?
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No - what is needed to be WMF is some reference that WMF made not just the electrical & metal bits but also the glass. I've never seen sandblasted or acid resist glass from WMF - so to me it looks like a mariage. At least if it has a flange to hold the mounting it would mean it was made as a lamp foot, and not as a vase which was later converted.
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well, so what is it? :roll:
Ivo, you say: the mounting, metal bits, flange are WMF - and the base is not a vase - a marriage then of whom?
I still like to post it as a etched and carved STUDY of WMF - all Ikora were studies first :x
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Ikora glass is defined as two or more layers with colour inclusions ("Zwischenschichtglas"); Ikora used a variety of colour powders, silver nitrate, foil etc.
The vase you are showing here is a single colour with a sandblasted or acid resist decoration technique which I have never seen from WMF - certainly not under the name Ikora.
Nothing remotely like it is found in the Jörg Schwand book.
I am willing to believe that the double fitting was made by WMF - it is the same type used in IKora lights.
I just asked the question, was the foot designed as a lamp or as a vase?
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Ivo, I know regarding Ikora glass, but Ikora was also a WMF metal line - etched by the way ;o)
my lamp foot is not the common Ikora, it is not Myra, it is just a study of their Werkstätten I think?
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Ikorametal ist es ganz bestimmt nicht, dabei geht es um patinierte Kunstgegenstände. www.ikora.de - Bitte frag es den Kilian.
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Dear Ivo, metal: I knew, that was why I named it. Ikora was a trade mark and not only multilayered glass.
Guess we shall have to wait for vol. III of
Burschel/Scheiffele Ikora lamps
Believe it or not, I bought this lamp from Jan Kilian as Ikora Unica 8)
It could perhaps be made at Glasfachschule Prof. ?Eiff?, Stuttgart who made a joint Stiftung with WMF in 1921 - followed by WMF's NKA
Neue Kunstgewerbe Abteilung
Vol. 1 of Burschel/Scheiffele also shows an etched vase named Ikora without several layers of glass ... :roll:
Some more Ikora people here on the board who could help further :?:
Thank you!