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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: dirk. on February 14, 2010, 07:30:20 AM
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Hi!
do you think this vase can be attributed to a particular factory, e.g. Karel Palda? The
style of the decoration looks like bohemian Art Déco.
The vase is cut at the top and bottom. Parts are frosted and there´s enamel decoration
in black and blue around it´s ´waist´.
The bottom is slightly concave.
It´s ca. 130mm tall and 150mm wide.
Any thoughts?
TIA
Dirk
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I would think of Glasfachschule Steinschönau because of the various decoration techniques combined in one piece. Bohemian Deco is unmistakable, of course.
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Does look very much like the black and white pictures on page 98 of 'Truitt',beautiful piece,
Keith.
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Thank you, both, much appreciated!
Ivo, think I see what you mean. The cut pattern seems a bit too much.
Keith, unfortunately I don´t have Truitt´s books yet. Would you mind having
a closer look at the detailed enamel painting on my vase and the ones shown
in the book?
Glad, no one´s made a Charlie Brown joke yet! ;) ;D
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I had a look through Truitt last night and did not see the exact pattern, although the drawings and images for the most part are quite small. There is an example of a vase with a similar banded zig zag pattern and a couple of examples of others in the same shape.
I would not rule out Palda so quickly, as they did quite a bit of heavily cut work with enamel and to me the combination of decorations does not make me look somewhere else because of it....
The first large image in Truitt of Palda is an enameled piece with a heavily cut body and cut scalloped rim.....
the enameling being in both geometric and deco "floral" decors.
Craig
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Thanks, Craig! I did some online search and found this one:
http://www.lot-tissimo.com/de/cmd/d/o/119.65-2535/auk/65/p/1/
Do you think that one is a Palda? If so, it might be a pointer, that mine´s also. The
drawing in the matted circle is very, very similar to the drawing on my vase: the
repeated triangular form, the cloud-like floral motif, the small ´x´ in the spaces...
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As Craig says the pictures are very small, but also very similar,in my humble opinion,I have also found a site called 'anticlopedia' that has a vase with the same decor' as your piece,it may be worth a look,
Keith.
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Hi Dirk, To answer your question above, The piece you found is, IMHO very much in the style of Palda, as much as yours is.
I did some quick research on Glasfachschule Steinschönau. I also looked for examples of other work from Haida where Palda was located and could not really find anything else quite as strong in design as Palda's work... not to say it is not out there of course.... The examples I found were all in the vein of being much "busier" in terms of details and not having the bold and defined statements these decorations make. Or, they went the other way and were quite simple in terms of design.....
Based on what I have seen, I would lean much more in the direction of Palda than Glasfachschule Steinschönau, or any other examples of work from houses in the Nový Bor region that I have seen.
I collect some Deco, and from previous research it is my understanding that there is limited knowledge about the history and development of Palda, and that one of the greatest sources of information for the company's designs comes form their 1938 - 50 year anniversary catalog. That is the source of the images in Truitt I.
I try to be reasonably thorough in my research, but this is, of course, just my humble opinion....
Craig
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Thanks again!
Craig, the information available seems to be limited I see. I therefor much appreciate your
substantiated view!
The need to visit the Passau museum myself increases the longer I collect glass; it´s
definitely on my to-do list for this year. I´ll keep you informed.
Keith, it´s an interesting site with some lovely items, but it seems the seller is a bit optimistic
with his attributions. At least one is definitely wrong.
http://www.anticlopedia.com/html/art-deco/art-deco-antiques-glass-bowl-black-AMDA_4250.html
It´s a Fenne bowl (Thanks, Pamela!)
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/06570.html
If you look closely, you can see it´s a pressed bowl. Unlike the Palda items the black is just painted,
not enamelled. You can see how the colour´s been scratched and flaked off on the feet.
Even without a waterproof ID I quite like this vase for it´s pure Déco style. There´s another bowl
I´m going to post soon. I likely won´t get further than this either, but think you´ll like it. My time´s
a bit limited at the moment (need to take some photos), so - next weekend!
Cheers!
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Have just watched this evenings edition of the antiques roadshow and one of the items was a set of 'deco' glassware consisting of a pair of candlesticks,a dressing table set,a decanter and 6 glasses by Palder,the design very much like yours(except the blue streak)it's worth viewing,
Keith.
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Gosh - that is a really gorgeous piece - Want!!
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I am glad to see anything that looks even remotely similar to this... Deco is one of my interests outside of glass, and to combine the two together is a little piece of heaven for me.... I think you vase is outstanding....
Craig