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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on February 16, 2010, 03:16:25 PM
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sorry, but I'm probably out of my depth with this one, and wud appreciate some help please. Can't post a pic. because the piece is still in the charity shop, and being held for me till tomorrow. Description is: conical flint vase 220/230mm tall - top opening of about 110/120mm - with pronounced 'rings' around the cone - about 4 or 5 in number. Base is circular, mostly mid green, a good 10 - 12mm thick - about 80 - 90mm wide, and with a large very professionally ground/polished pontil mark. And here come the bit I don't know............scratched into the center of the pontil area is the following: "o f" (then underneath) "lw 108".
The base wear is considerable - enough scratches to make me think half a century perhaps, and my thoughts (for what they're worth) was Scandinavian. Wud appreciate any suggestions or help please, and thanks for looking. Paul S.
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get it, then post a picture. Of is Orrefors, probably.
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thanks Ivo - it had been my intention to buy the piece tomorrow anyway - provided the charity shop didn't want too high a price. Hopefully you will see pics tomorrow. thanks your help. cheers Paul S.
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what can I say - I'm gutted and very disappointed at getting so close to buying this piece. Oxfam have done their research, and they tell me this is from Vicki Lindstrom for Orrefors, and dates, I'm told, to 1932 - some of his pieces can make an 'arm and a leg' apparently. They are going to put a price of £500 on it to start with, and see how it goes - which is at least one nought too many for me. Of course I shouldn't begrudge them a valuable find, and I hope they make the money - its just that the obsessional collector in me occasionally surfaces, and when I don't acquire the piece I get depressed and then can't concentrate on other things. argggggh!! Paul S. P.S. I cud probably take a pic. of the piece if anyone was interested in seeing what I didn't get.
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Yes please take a photo (if it is still in the local shop), I for one am now intrigued.
Or offer to post photos of it here and maybe they could find out a little extra information about it, might help with their sale.
John
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I'll take the pics. tomorrow lunchtime John - and hopefully post in the evening. Can't see anyone buying it before then. cheers Paul S.
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I don't think anyone will buy it full stop. If you're going to spend that sort of money there are other, more reliable sources than Oxfam. They should learn that as a charity shop, you should charge charity shop prices and not behave like the high street dealer they're not.
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agreed Ivo, I dont begrudge charities earning money but sometimes they are just ridiculous, i went in the oxfam near me about 6 months back and they have a IITTALA TIMO SARPANEVA FESTIVO CANDLESTICK (single ring size) which is damaged small chip off of the base, for £48 !!! neadless to say its still in there.
I think it was Nigel Benson that said to me you have to leave a little something in it for the next person.
michelle
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as promised here are the pics. of this OXFAM Lindstrom piece - and apologies in advance for the lack of usual quality. Too many fluorescent lights and shadows to be really good, but hope you can get the gist of the piece. I went into the shop having walked for some time and the camera lens was of course cold - so I spent the next five minutes trying to 'de-mist' the lens. If you can't make out the letters/Nos., I have already quoted them above. As of today they want Sterling 450. See what you think. Paul S.
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Hi: It's LU 108 (still Vicke Lindstrand) and in the 1932 catalogue. Great advice from Ivo. An interesting piece, but 500 pounds?
David
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Yes nice but you wouldnt pay that in a Kensington High St Antique shop , unless it had a naked lady or a pearl diver engraved on it . jp
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Nice but boring. Not worth £500
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my thoughts precisely - but if anyone wants to try a punt at say three or three fifty, I wud be happy to act for you - just a small brokerage of course ;D Actually, I'm hoping no one buys the piece, and they get fed up with looking at it, and drop the price considerably. It's 450 at the moment. Paul S.
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A nice quality vase, but seriously they'd have to drop the price by at least £400 before I was interested ;)
I wonder where they got their valuation from? Unfortunately now I find that a lot of charity shops are poorly run, not by the staff themselves but rather by the head/ regional offices who impose too many restrictions and rules on pricing for shop managers. I have no experience of Oxfam, but having worked as a paid manager for another well known charity shop, I was constantly frustrated by interference from above, from people who didn't know the market and who were lacking in basic business sense. There seems to be a feeling in many shops now that higher pricing=higher income, with no thought whatsoever to turnover. If things don't sell, they get carted off to another store, risking damage and wasting resources, when realistic pricing in the first place would have ensured quicker sales and ultimately a higher rate of turnover.
Steven
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Hi Paul i sent you a pm any problem get back to me Regards jp :thup:
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A nice quality vase, but seriously they'd have to drop the price by at least £400 before I was interested ;)
I wonder where they got their valuation from? Unfortunately now I find that a lot of charity shops are poorly run, not by the staff themselves but rather by the head/ regional offices who impose too many restrictions and rules on pricing for shop managers. I have no experience of Oxfam, but having worked as a paid manager for another well known charity shop, I was constantly frustrated by interference from above, from people who didn't know the market and who were lacking in basic business sense. There seems to be a feeling in many shops now that higher pricing=higher income, with no thought whatsoever to turnover. If things don't sell, they get carted off to another store, risking damage and wasting resources, when realistic pricing in the first place would have ensured quicker sales and ultimately a higher rate of turnover.
Steven
I couldn't have put that better myself, they think just because high pricing works for one charity shop it'll work for all of the Charity shops.
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thanks jp - sorry, I have been busy most of this weekend, so apologies for late response. Will now reply to your PM. cheers Paul S.
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I doubt this piece would cost more than £50 in Sweden, even if it's a signed Lindstrand.
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Item 380208198161 a blue one on ebay now , under £50 no bids three days to go , so we will have an idea. :24:
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sorry to have to say that said item was stolen from the window display cabinet from the Oxfam shop on Saturday. think the shop had realized their price of Sterling 450 was way over the top but had left the card still showing this figure, and this was presumably what encourgaed the theft. I don't have any experience whatsoever of ebay, but if anyone sees a green base vase with this pedigree, then possible it may well be the item in question. The shop people tell me they wud in fact be able to recognize the piece if they saw it again.