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Title: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Della on February 16, 2010, 04:07:54 PM

Hi all,

Can anyone give me any information on this piece, please. Tons of wear to base, snapped off pontil and air bubble in stem.
Incredibly heavy (824gr - 1lb 13oz) and rings like a bell. I suspect it is lead crystal.

Diameter of bowl, 5.75", height 5", foot diameter 4". The thicknes of the wall of the bowl is 0.25" - 7mm

I am not sure if this could be Georgian or possibly a Victorian reproduction.

TIA

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Andy on February 16, 2010, 10:04:40 PM

Della,
tricky from photos, but it looks pretty old, surely early 19thC
(its older than me  :D )
Andy

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Della on February 17, 2010, 06:28:21 PM

Lol, Andy..........

Thanks for your reply. I have handled a few similar pieces today and I really think this is an 18th century item, but I could, of course, be way off.  ;)

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2010, 11:14:55 AM

Della,
i think very likely its 18thC
 :D

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: oldglassman on February 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM

  Hi ,  :cry: Sorry for this , but i believe your sweetmeat glass to be 19th century, several things suggest this, the small platform that is between the bottom knop on the stem and the foot is not a feature seen on 18th century glasses,though very common on all types of early to late 19thc glass items, as is the form of the stem itself , reffered to as a dumbell stem,I would also expect the foot to be more conical ie less flat underneath than this 1 is,as can be seen by the line of ware which is someway in from the edge of the foot,more oviously though i believe is its weight and the apparent thickness of the glass , 18thc glass does have a heavy feel to it ,early ones being called Heavy Balusters ,but yours is way way to heavy even for 1 of those , I have many and can say that for a glass of this size made in the 18thc its weight would be 1/2 or less of yours and would also be more thinly blown. All of this(and that I have seen many before) adds up to my giving yours a 19thc date , in the 18thc style , but also add that it is not without its own merits and should not be dismissed in the appreciation dept for being 19th century, unfortunately though it makes a great difference to its commercial value,

   Cheers,
          Peter.

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2010, 05:06:40 PM

Thanks Peter,
nice to know you're looking in, i keep meaning to post a few old bits on my shelves!
Cheers
Andy

Title: Re: Unknown sweetmeat. Old? English?
Post by: Della on February 19, 2010, 12:26:11 AM

Hi Peter,
Please, do not apologise. I am very grateful for your comments. My field is more 1970's, than 1830's+, or so.
Very many thanks  :)