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Title: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 26, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
3 inches across,Maltese cross and sig',not seen one of these before,any info' gratefully received,
                                                                                                                          Keith.
                                                                                                             
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: glassobsessed on February 26, 2010, 05:18:47 PM
Paperweight or pebbleweight or something to look nice in the window. ;D

The signature looks like a more recent one to me, maybe last 10 or 20 years (complete guesstimate). Like the textured finish.

John
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 26, 2010, 05:50:22 PM
 :clap:
Yup, I'd guesstimate the same, John. This is the small italic-y mark (mentioned in the other recent thread) which I associate with the plastic labels.
 >:D If absolutely necessary, you could hit a burglar on the head with it - though you'd probably get done for assault. You could do the same with any other paperweight.
I didn't know they were doing textured stuff again. Hinterestink!

Do you have one of the textured cylinder vases? Can you compare the textures?
It looks a bit similar, but it's not that easy to tell from pics. It does look a bit flatter though there could be several reasons for that, if it is.
(I know wot I mean,  :spls: :spls: :spls:)
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 26, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
Thanks again,Sue,John,it's a bit small for battering burglars,is this the cylinder vase you mean?feels  similar although the sig's are very different,
                                                                                                                                                                              Keith.
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: suzygpr on February 27, 2010, 10:51:37 AM
Sue and John are quite right - last 10 years or so.

I've only seen a couple of these textured ones before, though they were taller - they stand on the polished, signed bit.  One had the plastic, modern sticker on and was described as a wave.

Suzy x
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 27, 2010, 12:05:12 PM
 ;D

I know the cylinder and the weight are completely different eras, Keith - (that is exactly the one I mean - thanks!  :-* ) 

I am just very curious to know if they're actually using the same texture - or if a completely new one has been designed.

Can you tell at all?
Is there a section of the vase which matches the PW - not necessarily in depth or quality, just the exact same pattern?

(as moulds are used, they do become worn and the crispness is lost, perhaps the texture in the PW might have "slumped" a bit.)
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 27, 2010, 01:33:47 PM
No match in pattern they are very different,to my untrained Mdina eyes,have inc' more pic's showing shape,Keith.
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: suzygpr on February 27, 2010, 01:47:57 PM
Can the piece stand upright?  They usually stand on the polished section.  It may photograph better that way.

Suzy x
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 27, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
Only just the slightest movement and over it goes,best pic I can manage,bit dull outside at the moment,
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: suzygpr on February 27, 2010, 02:10:36 PM
Can see that the texture is very different from older pieces, the other modern ones I've seen are even more textured than this. So yet another style to catalogue.  Nice colours in yours, the others were a bit bland in comparison.
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 27, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
 :band:

That's pretty crystal clear, Keith, and even more interesting than I thought it might be.
Thank you *so much* for these extra images!

I shall have to get a bit out tomorrow, and go over it with the proverbial "fine tooth comb", but that is obviously not the same texture as the cylinder vase, which was shortly post-Harris, I think. I may be wrong. Mark would know for sure.

This looks as if it's the same as the much bigger, much more deeply textured bark pieces made during the Harris period - his design.

The cylinder texture looks as if it's been produced by repeatedly stamping a sort of rough lozengy shaped thing into the original thing the mould was cast from.
This is much more like the very real, very rough, bark texture which was used for the huge semi-cased bottles..
I'll report back tomorrow!
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 27, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
My pleasure,thanks for all the info',it's only the third textured piece we have out of around 40 pieces,
                                                                                                                            Keith.
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 28, 2010, 01:31:10 PM
Found one pic which looks like a similar texture, Keith. Will dig
out more later. Sorry for the delay, I'm slow and all over the place today!

Bottom right bit of glass, bottom of the smaller pot. Looks very similar, doesn't it?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/more%20glass/2barks.jpg

However, I'd need to go all sort of "microscopic" and find a way of checking for minute details, to see if it's exactly the same mould.


I'd need putty, or plasticine or clay to do it, can't do it from images!




Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: keith on February 28, 2010, 02:34:39 PM
Very similar Sue,where do you find these beautiful pieces? all I ever see,apart from this pebble,are horses and 'oil-lamps' there seems a shortage of Mdina in my area at the moment,
                                      Keith.
Title: Re: One for the Mdina 'buffs'what is this?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 28, 2010, 07:45:34 PM
These are both from the early, Harris period at Mdina, Keith. I've been collecting for quite a long time  - I had a big "binge" starting around 2000.
I found a couple of bits I loved, ( an Earthtones Cylinder vase, and a Ming Decanter (squat style) and eventually found out they were by the same maker and decided "this is the stuff I'm going to collect". (though not in recent years, I ran out of glass-money!).
I used to find bits mostly at Glass fairs and on ebay, but that was before it became popular in the collecting market. Often it was a matter of just my gut instinct about bits - buy it now, find out what it is later, but mostly because I just loved it.

Fairs are the best places to find the good stuff. I wish I knew where the exhibitors find it, but they don't give that info away!