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Title: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Paul S. on February 28, 2010, 08:34:51 PM
Appreciate this is a little egotistical, but thought people might like to see part of last Friday's charity shop acquisitions, especially with the weather being so depressing at the moment.    Ivo has of course kindly put me right on the small repro beaker, so that is going back where is came from, and I expect the sugar will do the same in due course.    The 'Wealdstone' has some water staining which I hope to remove soon - and according to Jackson is 'Violet' (am I correct please?),   The Webb's is a beauty, and glows well under the torch. Finally, I am still hoping that Lustrousstone will kindly give me a maker for the attractive uranium Deco bowl (please), although this also might have to move on.  Hope you are now all suitably green >:D   Paul S.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.
Post by: Cathy B on March 04, 2010, 11:52:11 PM
Looks like a great haul!

It would be interesting to know Emmi's or JP's opinion of the tall violet vase. It might not be Whitefriars 'Wealdstone'. I've taken the liberty of changing the title to try to attract more attention - hope that's okay.

Mod: Corrected my own editing/grammatical errors. :spls2:
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.
Post by: Bernard C on March 05, 2010, 12:57:29 AM
Paul — the Deco bowl was by Sowerby.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: keith on March 05, 2010, 01:59:59 AM
Not fair,I can only find amber bullseye,never seen any other colour,nice little collection,you must have some good charity shops,I trawled through 19 in three local towns earlier this week and came back with an African stone bust and no glass,
                                                                                                                        Keith.
                                                                                         
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: johnphilip on March 05, 2010, 07:13:06 AM
The tall one looks more like Webb can we see birds eye picture and the size of pontil and base .
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: vidrioguapo on March 05, 2010, 09:42:14 AM
Paul, the "wave ribbing" on the violet vase is not a Whitefriars/Wealdstone style.  I have tried to illustrate and explain the differences with photos (including a vase like yours ) on my Wannabee blog if you'd like to take a look.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Paul S. on March 05, 2010, 12:56:27 PM
 :-[   sorry, looks as tho I've blown it again then.   unfortunately, I have a problem at home in that my internet connection suddenly went down last evening, and not sure when I will be back on line, so don't know when I will be able post better pics - however, I definitely will.   (at work at the moment).  Anyway.............here goes........
many thanks Bernard  -  think I have said elsewhere that in my mind I was thinking a good chance it was Sowerby.
Keith.....  good pieces, but an embarrissingly large carbon footprint of course  -  like you, I sometimes visit 15 - 18 locations (across half the county)  -but the small Webb's uranium bowl was a great find.   What size was the bust, but the way ;)
Emmi  -  sorry, no excuses - rushing again, but from memory think I must have looked at the polished pontil and not seen anything.   I will certainly look at your 'Wannabee blog (complusive viewing since I have made the mistake).
jp  -  sincere aplogies if I 'got you going'  -  but I have learned from these errors, and at least I shudn't make these mistakes again.
I will get better pics. up as soon as I possible can, and my thanks to everyone for their time and trouble.     Paul S.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: keith on March 05, 2010, 02:40:17 PM
Here's a pic' of one of my wavy's to compare(the bust was small but perfectly formed)
                                                                                               Keith.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Paul S. on March 05, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
internet connection back up :), so I will now mumble some excuses.
the first pic. shows my few pieces of Webb's - all of which except the 'amethyst' vase have a Webb's mark etched somewhere on the underside of the foot.  So this absence of a name, plus the shape gave rise to my downfall.    Of course when it is pointed out to you, the waves are quite dissimilar  -  wfrs. are almost swags perhaps.   Shame that I just picked on a piece that was an identical shape.       Is it unusual for a piece of Webb's to be unmarked?   Anyway, won't make that mistake again.   My thanks to all.        Paul S.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Anne on March 05, 2010, 09:27:59 PM
David has something about this pattern on his webpage here (right at the bottom):
http://www.glassyeye.com/glasspages/brit-webb.html

The shape is also the same as my glasses which David and I thought were Webb, even though they have a chevron wavey pattern: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-1024 - David has the same style in a different colour which were on the board somewhere but I can't find the earlier topic.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: keith on March 05, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Paul;I think it's quite common for Webbs pieces not to be marked,half my bullseye is the other half not,this bowl is not but the one half it's size is,the vase is mkd but have no idea of it's pattern,
                                                          Keith.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Paul S. on March 05, 2010, 10:24:57 PM
Anne  -  many thanks for the links, but a bit late at night for me to digest properly, so will look later tomorrow.   Wud seem from the pics. that Keith's amethyst pieces are definintely a stronger 'colour' than my vase.   Cud be just variations in camera quality or lighting.    Paul s.
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Cathy B on March 06, 2010, 12:57:57 AM
Thanks everyone, that's what I thought! Paul, how are you going to remove the water staining?
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: johnphilip on March 06, 2010, 08:22:41 AM
Hi Paul what on earth made you think you got me going we are all here to help each other we all get things wrong but then others can put us right i have been collecting Italian glass for about 30 years and i am still making mistakes and learning from other members , if we are afraid to ask we will learn nothing , with the W/Fs/ Webb wave range i was told the big difference is when you have a birdseye view W/FS pattern looks round  Webbs look square and i have noticed the pontil of the Webbs is a lot wider usually . :thup:
Title: Re: some nice pics. for a dark wet Sunday evening.- Whitefriars 'Wealdstone' ?
Post by: Paul S. on March 06, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
thanks Cathy  -  will probably try just metal polish to start with, and if no improvement will add either some cerium oxide or possibly tin oxide  -  these are both used in the jewellery and optic professions (via a power line of course)     If  still no good, I will smear lightly with vaseline, and pretend there was never ever any staining in the first place  ;D (or something similar that was suggested in recent weeks  -  I forget the exact words or by whom).      Will let you know if it works.
jp  -  my sincere thanks for your words of comfort and support.   Personally, I think that Webb's pieces are a worthwhile output to collect, aside from the fact that I tend to favour pre second war material, they are interesting and possibly under-rated still.         Paul S.