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Title: EAPG pattern ID = Geo. Duncan & Sons #800 Bag Pattern
Post by: Cathy B on November 15, 2005, 12:01:42 PM

Does anyone know whether this be EAPG heavy finecut in "vaseline" (American definition)? EAPG drives me crosseyed with its millions of patterns...

I also wonder what sort of bowl it is. It has a rim which looks suspiciously like it would have held something like a lid?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6438
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6439

I can't do exact measurements at the moment because we're moving (and all sorts of strange things are coming out of the garage!). I can't immediately find anything with a reliable measure!

Thanks!

Cathy

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: Connie on November 15, 2005, 05:18:06 PM

Cathy -

Try Duncan aka Duncan Miller.  It looks like their pattern and the color is right also.  I am at work on lunch break  or I would look in my reference books.

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: Connie on November 15, 2005, 10:16:29 PM

I *think* it could be Duncan Bag Ware c. 1880s.  The pattern is pictured on page 24 in "Depression Era Glass by Duncan" by Leslie Pina.

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: Sid on November 16, 2005, 12:47:21 AM

Hello:

This is a bowl in Geo. Duncan & Sons No. 800 Bag pattern in canary produced circa 1884.  Factory sold to US Glass in 1891, had a disasterous fire in 1892 and never operated again.

George Duncan's Sons & Company formed in 1892 by J.E Duncan, H.B. Duncan and J.E. Miller was a completely new company with a different product line.  In 1900 this later firm was reorganized as Duncan & Miller Glass Co.

Sid

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: Cathy B on November 16, 2005, 01:35:44 AM

Thank you Sid and Connie, marvellous information.

Cathy.

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: mrvaselineglass on November 16, 2005, 01:49:44 AM

These are typically called BERRY BOWLS.  if it is bigger than about 4" diameter (say, 7 or 8" across), it is generally referred to as a MASTER BERRY BOWL.  No lid was made for it.  IF it had a place for a metal foot to attach (with threading, not just a marie), it was called COTTAGE WARE.  same pattern, just a different name for the metal foot on all the BAG WARE pieces.

Geo. Duncan made some fine vaseline glass (yes....uranium yellow green from good ol USA)
mr. vaseline glass

Title: EAPG pattern known as "Heavy Finecut", but not cut
Post by: Cathy B on November 16, 2005, 02:08:21 AM

Thanks Dave!

It's huge, about 22cms diameter, and has a few chips to the base and around the side which this seller has missed. But I'm still very happy.