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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: David E on March 02, 2010, 03:42:59 PM
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Can anyone help with identifying the maker of this measuring jug, please?
It has the Registered Design No. of 824215, but it is not listed in great-glass.co.uk (http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos10.htm) (although I appreciate this is not a definitive list). I am also aware of the Intellectual Property Office (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/design/d-os/d-find/d-find-number.htm) but this, as usual, finds nothing remotely historical...
Does anyone know of a full and comprehensive RegDes list, not just for glass?
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I believe there was a company called Prince and Symmons but i know nothing about them .
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It's not in the Glass Assn Blue Book list either David.
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Thanks so far. The only mention of Prince and Symmons, is this when googling (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xBXUJzNMmQcC&pg=PA198&lpg=PA198&dq=%22Prince+and+Symmons%22&source=bl&ots=WdlkSPusDy&sig=nVTONFxVNJWLB19yWDcMOQ2I_Zk&hl=en&ei=ICqOS6epJsK5jAfkkZSpCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Prince%20and%20Symmons%22&f=false)
But this indicates they were wholesale agents/distributors, rather than manufacturers. More digging I think.
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No trace of them in 1907 Annuaire as dealers. 1931 list of glass makers (PG Annual) in Glass Study has no matches on initials except unlikely Pearson, S., (West Bromwich) Ltd. (bottles), Charles Street
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A clear glass measuring jug. The sides are marked with British standard cup sizes, imperial to 1 1/2 pints, Fluid ozs to 32 oz and maximum capacity 1 litre.
Underside of the base marked "Made in England - Reg. Des.824215 - P&S Ltd".
(Permission for the re-use of this image on the GMB granted by tillymint-me).
Not listed at http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos10.htm
Is it listed in the Blue Book? If so, would some kind GMB member let me have the precise registration details, please.
Fred
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Unfortunately, another CLASS 4 Registration.
Kew references are....... Representations BT 52/2160 and for the Register BT 53/74.
Hope you can read the text.
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the text might not be so easy to read.............so, wording appears to read:
"Platers & Stampers Limited, Colne Road, Burnley, Lancashire.
Address for Service................c/o Stevens, Langner (or Langmer), Parry & Rollinson, 5 - 9 Quality Court, Chancery Lane, London, W.C.2.
7th August 1942 extended for second period of 5 years.
16th Sepetember 1947 extended for final period of five years. Copyright expired 4th November 1952
Chancery Lane was an old stamping ground of mine.......used to watch the girls playing netball on the Grays Inn courts, shopped in Gamages, Leather Lane market, browsed the Farringdon Road second hand book stalls, and trips round the B.M. in the lunch breaks...........and Covent Garden was in Covent Garden. :)
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Interesting. My mother still has hers, and I think it may have been a wedding present (1949) or a slightly later purchase, so it would tie in with when these were made. However, I seem to remember that there was a mechanical whisk contraption that fitted over the top so that it was actually a combined measuring jug and mixing bowl. But that still doesn't answer why it was given a Class 4 registration.
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I can't recall the link or when, but seem to remember that Bernard went into some detail as to why he considered a few glass items were given CLASS 4 classification (earthenware). You hardly think an item like this might encourage or need industrial subterfuge.
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Thank you, Paul.
It certainly explains the "P&S Ltd". with the RD number on the underside of the base.
I will ask the moderators to remove the post from the GMB RD lookup list.
Fred.
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I picked up one of these today. Look like David was right about the mixer bit because look who Platers & Stamper belonged to in 1936
http://www.prestige.co.uk/about-us/heritage/
The question is who made the glass?
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Well found! I've transposed the relevant paragraph across:
The Prestige story starts way back in 1936 when a company called EKCO Products Company, based in Chicago, USA, purchased a UK company called Platers & Stampers. EKCO wanted to expand into Europe and Platers & Stampers provided the perfect avenue for this. At this time Platers & Stampers produced chrome plated kitchen tools and gadgets, bathroom fittings and domestic bakeware.
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This might fit in nicely with this thread as Skyline was the cheaper version of Prestige Kitchen ware.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Vintage-Skyline-Rotary-Whisk-With-Graduated-Jug-/271404471028?pt=UK_Collectables_Kitchenalia_RL&hash=item3f30f792f4
The seller may even allow you to use her pictures for reference.??