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Title: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase - ID = Max Malky, Weisswasser O.L
Post by: pamela on March 09, 2010, 09:52:48 PM
last one for today  :)

vase # 837

This is  the only one of which I would have guessed could be continental Europe?  :-[

TIA
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Glen on March 10, 2010, 12:36:28 PM
This is a fascinating vase, Pamela. I have not seen it before and it is intriguing. The iridescence appears to be top notch.

The fan motif (I can't think of a better way to describe it right now) in the horizontal panels reminds me of a Riihimaki pattern that is seen in bowls and stemmed comports. But the vase is not in any of the Riihimaki catalogues that I have. That doesn't rule out Riihimaki, of course - it's just that the vase is not shown in the catalogues that I have.

Poland is also possibility (Hortensja would be my guess) but again, it's not in the catalogue that I have.

Is it possible to see what the base of the vase looks like? And can you tell us if it has an "Inwald-like" mirror shiny grind on the base (although I really don't think the pattern is an Inwald one - but I would want to eliminate that maker from the enquiry).

Has anyone seen this vase in any other type of glass - or better still, in a catalogue?
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2010, 12:54:36 PM
Glen, thank you, also for the Mistic!
I'm glad I did no longer search on my own  :pb:

All the photos submitted came from Karrasburg - but, as we had definitely ruled out Brockwitz, gladly this vase is now here with me and I take some more images as requested.

It's always better to touch and handle the glass, and Riihimäki and even Schreiber / Hortensja were my possible thoughts also...

 :hug:

 
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Glen on March 10, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
Here are a couple of images of the "Katherine" plate that I mentioned above (Riihimaki's 7259 in amber). The pattern reminds me of the horizontal motif in Pamela's vase.

Glen

Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2010, 06:06:59 PM
Katherine is at least a very beautiful sister, I'd say  :thup:

the vase measures 197 mm height, base dia 76 mm, top dia 105 mm

new images:
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Glen on March 10, 2010, 07:10:33 PM
Many thanks for those extra images, Pamela. It helps a lot. The base colour of the glass looks as if it may be amber and not clear (crystal). If it is amber, then that is a HUGE tick in the box for Riihimaki. The entire pattern concept of the vase says "Riihimaki" too.

Glen
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2010, 07:59:44 PM
Glen, it's crystal clear, I'm afraid  :cry:
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Glen on March 10, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
No worries. It would have been an easier task to pin down if it had been amber. Marigold is good though  ;)

Thanks for the great photos, Pamela.

Glen
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
One more from another angle

Thanks again for your time, Glen  :-*
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on April 08, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
Especially for Glen!  :-*

More than three years have passed, and I guess we've got an attribution today. Please see page 10 of

 Max Malky, Weisswasser O.L. ca 1930 pattern NORDSTERN  (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Max-Malky-um-1930.309+B6YmFja1BJRD0zMDkmcHJvZHVjdElEPTEyODEyJnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTMwOSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)

The pricelist page -7- indicates that NORDSTERN is out of production.

Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: flying free on April 08, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
wow Pamela!  that's fantastic  :D
And thanks so much for sharing the catalogues once again.
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Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 09, 2013, 06:10:28 AM
Great!! Was Max Malky a manufacturer or a distributor? (And there's Patricia's hyacinth vase in with the pee bottles as usual!!)
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: pamela on April 09, 2013, 06:52:35 AM
Malky were manufacturers, some ranges marked  'Edelweiss'  (http://pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/03639.html) like
 JUNO  (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Max-Malky-um-1930.309+B6YmFja1BJRD0zMDkmcHJvZHVjdElEPTEyODAzJnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTMwOSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)

Further information:
 Langhammer & Malky   (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-1999-2w-billek-malky-marke.pdf)
 Malky & Jahncke, Deuben  (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2004-1w-neumann-malky.pdf)

 :)



Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Glen on April 09, 2013, 07:37:55 AM
Very interesting indeed, Pamela. Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Unknown Carnival - 837 vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 09, 2013, 08:13:12 AM
Thank you Pamela  ;D