Glass Message Board
Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Ivo on November 17, 2005, 09:29:42 AM
-
The season of throwing unidentified items your way continues with 9 ashtrays...
1 Czech design?
http://tinypic.com/fu3q7r.jpg
2 dichroic olive and aqua, pressed
http://tinypic.com/fu3q8h.jpg
3 iridised inside and out
http://tinypic.com/fu3qbm.jpg
4 steel blue crystal
http://tinypic.com/fu3qc9.jpg
5 brown and clear blown - Aseda?
http://tinypic.com/fu3qdd.jpg
6 wild triangle slag
Mod: Images vanished, may be replaced at a later date.
http://tinypic.com/fu3qle.jpg
7 flesh coloured slag
http://tinypic.com/fu3qir.jpg
8 French Uranium
http://tinypic.com/fu3qjq.jpg
9 Dom Perignon 1930s
http://tinypic.com/fu3qki.jpg
-
Re; The Dom Perignon ashtray, I found this:
http://erp.winecommune.com/lot.cfm/lotID/832292.html
Scroll down for photo. Maybe American glass, or maybe exported there? :)
-
Great Max, that is the same ashtray and I see that 40 bucks for an ashtray was too much.
This one is almost certainly produced in France or in Bohemia with amazing die-work and a smooth polished bottom - very reminiscent of Ingrid glass. As you may know the Schlevogt family fled to France after the war with the dies where production was resumed at Romilly-sur-Andelle in Normandy - until 1972. They also ran a shop in the Rue du Paradis in Paris and were one of the largest importers of glass in France between 1950-1972 - I assume the Dom Perignon ashtray is one of the Romilly production.
-
Thank you Max and Ivo! :D
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/aschenbecher/02995.html
-
#1 I've seen similar design before but don't rem where. It doesn't immediately shout Czech but whats the base like ?
#2 Looks like a cigar ashtray. The olive / aqua combo makes me think Murano. I don't think you really mean dichroic, do you ? but I won't argue about it - life's too short.
#3 clueless
#4 Presumably this is not Leerdam bluey-smoke or smokey blue sooooo I dunno.....interesting shade .... French ?
#5 Dunno but I like it ....and yes a Scandi-ish amber
#6 I hate slag ...normally but I love this piece - Moretti ?
#7 eeeeeeeeek !!!
#8 ...Vereco ? or one of the many other French pressed makers we don't seem to know about ....yet ....(well i don't).
I think I have one like this in clear. I'll keep an eye out for it.
#9 She keeps Moet et Chandon
In her pretty cabinet
'Let them eat cake' she says
Just like Marie Antoinette
-
Number 3 looks 1930's French to me.
Paul
-
Hello,
#Number 6, the "wild triangle slag" looks a good deal like a Houze Glass item or perhaps it's by Westite Glass. I have seen those ash trays in the shops here, many times over the years.
I have a site, which shows a few of their wares, but your piece is not included in what has been posted there so far. If you care to have a look; click on the "Photos of Houze Items" and the "Photos of Westite Items" links.
http://www.mkl.com/akro/club/index.htm
Maybe the Glass Company names will help you in your search.
Mike
-
That is a fscinating website, lots of things I've never seen before. Anne, have you added it to the links collection?
The ashtray in "motor oil & yoghurt mix" may be from eastblock production. There is a large two=handled vase doing the rounds in precisely that colour which was allegedly produced in Yugoslavia, and which is often misattributed as Sowerby - but accurate reference is lacking. I can not even find a photograph of it.
Meanwhile, on the subject, here is a 4 1/4 " vase in grey and orange slag which had the specialists stumped. I cannot see it in the Houze or Westite collection - but maybe you can confirm the model? It is 10-sided. The only other piece seen in this colour is from Germany (Lausitz), in the 1920s - but that one is blown, not pressed.
http://tinypic.com/fusy0p.jpg
-
Peter
#1 oval hollow smooth - no grinding involved, more Finnish than Czech (makes this sense?)
#2 I would call it Dichroic, too - because it is not obviously somerso and the colour changes with the light fall. The bottom is polished smooth with a hollowed out pontil - I can not see if it is polished out or if it is part of the mould
#3 I trust Paul and I bought it in France - the combination is quite convincing
#4 This is more the Holmegaard Aquablue, or one of the Moser colours. Not Leerdam, I am sure. It is well made and well finished - and still not exciting.
#5 right, Aseda then
#6 Italy is a big country and Moretti did jump to mind for this expressive "calcedony" piece - but we just may be looking at Croatian or Serbian glass (see above)
#7 no comment
#8 No Vereco I think, more like Opalex or VMC.
#9 Killer Queen!
-
That is a fscinating website, lots of things I've never seen before. Anne, have you added it to the links collection?
It sure is Ivo. :)
I have another huge batch of links to add to GlassLinks as well but I've not had the time yet. They probably won't get done until after the play now (which happens next weekend!).
-
Not sure at all... but number 4 could be D'Avesn.
-
Great site Mike
How come you'd kept this quiet from us all this time !
I am something of an Akro fan for their pots and pumpkin orange tones.
Ivo I think this vase in the AkroBlog might have 10 sides
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/178/2591/640/Clipboard.jpg
but it's also unattributed
see the comments here http://akroite.blogspot.com/2005/04/this-photo-was-submitted-by-ron-jones_03.html#comments
#1 oval hollow smooth - no grinding involved >yes makes sense. I think I have a piece with a base like that but I'm fairly sure I dont know who made it so fat lot of help that is.
Sombre amber could be part of the Finnish aesthetic but no Finnish company comes easily to mind for it. I'm thinking now that the row of small ciggie indentations is a French design motif.
#2 The Muranese have severeal techniques (not sommerso) which play with color and light ( see Geodes on the Murano board) but are not Dichroic per se.
BUT I overlooked that this is pressed DUH Embarassed
so we have to be thinking Czech or.......... Romanian ? Rolling Eyes
#4 Jo, what do you know about D'Avesn ? Any refs ? Books ? Pics ? Websites ?
#6 Triangle Slag ...looking again the quality is not that fab. Mold line look prominent and do those bubbles stand proud of the surface ? I still like it tho ...even if it was made in Timbuktu ...now wouldn't that be something !!!
#9 Guaranteed to blow your mind ...anytime Cool
-
# 1 I could be persuaded to believe French...
# 2 Murano is probable, Czech is optional, but Romanian is a definite no-no.
# 6 Quality is excellent, I assure you.
-
I don't know much about d'Avesn except that he designed for Daum between the wars. I'm probably totally wrong about number 4 - it's just that I have a vase by d'Avesn with a similar design:
http://www.geocities.com/hunebelle/assortedglass.html?1132440257553
The vase is quite heavy and well made although not very 'exciting' glass. The concave base is signed in very small letters around the edge.
There are usually a few d'Avesn pieces on ebay with similar designs.
:)