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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Andy on March 31, 2010, 02:23:42 PM
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Saw this on fleabay for 99p, i thought, i bet that glows under uv, so had to buy it to prove myself right ;D
Glows very brightly, its got a polished pontil mark to the base, and is very nicely made.
Any ideas to origin?
Cheers
Andy
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Hello Andy
Last April Dirk was very helpful in suggesting that something I had that looks very similar to yours was possibly......"a semi-opaque uranium glass named "chrysoprase" after the mineral. The colour was very popular in the 1840's. producers of "chrysoprase" -glass were e.g. Harrach in Novı Svet / Bohemia and Schachtenbach-Hütte / Bavaria", and I understand from Ivo that Baccarat were the original inventors of this particular colour. I only hope that someone confirms this suggestion is correct :)
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Thanks Paul, Ive had a dig around on here,
quote from Ivo,
"Chrysoprase is the opaque Annagreen colour developed by Baccarat in 1848 and I do not think it was produced in great quantities. Very easy to misspell for english speakers"
and Frank,
"Harrachov glassworks introduced chrysoprase c 1827 a coloured glass that is a mixture of uranium glass with bone or alabaster glass"
from this thread,
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3159.0.html
I know its 19thc, but could be 1840s,50s , earlier than i thought.
I will keep digging,
Cheers
Andy
(what fun you can have for 99p ;D well a few pounds p+p on top)
ps also, its a lovely shape, must have taken a lot of skill to blow it! :P
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i'd sooner date that one in the 1890s - and if there was a stopper it could be a barber bottle. Harrach looks right for decoration or whats left of it - but it could also be French.
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Ivo,
Youre right again :thup:
Its missing a stopper, the inside neck is ground!
Id never heard of Barber bottles :-[ , rather than embarrass myself to ask if they are exactly what the name suggests, i just googled it, very collectable ;D
http://www.bottlebooks.com/barber.htm
says "These bottles graced the shelves of Barber Shops in the early part of the twentieth century. "
although i would have thought a little earlier, as you say.
Shame i havent got the stopper :'(
Cheers
Andy
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Barber bottles , from another link
"Sometime after 1850, glasshouses, particularly in Sandwich,
Massachusetts, Glassboro, New Jersey, and the area around Pittsburgh,
began to manufacture highly ornate bottles for the storage and dispensing
of bay rum, witch hazel, cologne, and other mixt
es employed by barbers."
From
http://www.antiquebottles.com/poch/12.html
So, popular 2nd half of the 19thC !
;D
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Andy - appreciate the couple of posts since I stared typing, but think some of this at least is relevant. ;D
yes, isn't that an irony (px?) that the postage costs more than the item :). I've seen a few pieces of this type over the past year or so, and probably wudn't now buy any unless it was exceptional. But how surprising that pieces made back in the middle of the C19 shud have survided so well - at least I don't see any with chips. I rushed to look in both of Barrie Skelcher's books thinking that without fail he wud have 'chrysoprase' in the index - but no. However, within the text he does refer to a C19 Webb's mixture called 'Chrysoprase Green', so this must be the same thing as like what we are discussing. But just to confuse matters Skelcher goes on to index what he calls 'Green Opaline' - which contains U., and looks very much like 'Chrysoprase' - so now I am confused. He also mentions something called 'Chrysophis', in several shades of green or yellow.
Perhaps Lustrusstone will clarify this for us :) - altho I believe her recent review of one of these books was less than complimentary.
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Thanks Paul,
i hadnt heard of Barrie Skelcher before, just had a read of some articles, and put a book on
my Amazon wish list, its an interesting subject, and i can fully understand the desire to collect it!
:D
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I gave up on understanding what chrysoprase glass was a long time ago. :pb: i just tend to call it uranium jade glass. I have about 8/9 different examples, as in shades of green, some by known manufacturers, the rest unknown. I tend to go with Ivo on this one.
Barrie's first book is fine. His second was much less well researched and put together.
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Thanks Christine,
I like your term for it , and i will swop the book on my wish list :thup:
Cheers
Andy
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I was a little remiss Andy in not quoting my sources properly - something that shud be done always if you make reference to specific books. To put the matter right, and for the benefit of anyone who is interested, I will do the bibliography correctly this evening - unless of course someone else wishes to quote the details for both volumes in the next 3 or 4 hours. cheers.
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just for the record then: Both books by Barrie Skelcher and published by Schiffer.
one...........'The Big Book of Vaseline Glass' - published 2002.
two...........'Vaseline Glassware - Fascinating Flourescent Beauty' - published 2007.
I'm not qualified to comment on the technical aspects of the books - but wud say that I have enjoyed both, and they do give a very good assortment of images of uranium glas styles/types. Price wise they were originally in the area of about US$40., but I suspect they are available secondhand for less.
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Thanks for the info Paul.
;)