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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: mich19uk on April 10, 2010, 08:17:37 PM
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Hi
I have found this beautiful green frosted glass lady decanter and 6 matching small shot glasses and would like to know if anyone has any information about it ie age, maker etc. The guy in the shop said it was 1930's.
Many thanks
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/turbodan_photos/Decanter.jpg)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/turbodan_photos/Glasses.jpg)
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This looks Czech, possibly a Schlevogt pattern. The design will likely date from the 1930s, however the item could have been made yesterday.
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Doesn't help much but I was watching this on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190384278801&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m38.l1313%26_nkw%3D190384278801%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
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Nice one. Is she uranium glass?
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No its not Uranium I have checked.
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I agree with Steven, designed by Schlevogt. Only just the head appears as lipstick case (!) in their 1937 pattern book.
The small, heavy one on the left with four glasses is an original, I believe. See also image 2447 of its high polished crystal base, typical for Schlevogt.
The larger but lighter, non-uranium green one on the right is equal to Mich's - base photo 2451.
A white decanter # 35192 with six glasses is shown on page 24 of 1949 catalogue of Glassexport Praha, Checoslovakia, unfortunately no measurements indicated ::)
Hope this helps :)
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Hi,
Thanks for all this information it is very helpful. So do you think that this is a copy of the Schlevogt design?
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Mich, I wish to leave this question unanswered - there are to many possibilities:
Could also be made in France by Schlevogt, where the family went during the late Thirties.
Halama and Glassexport companies, and later Desna, produced and still make Hoffmann and Schlevogt designs in Czecho-Slovaquia, now Czechia.
Considering that it comes up quite often now, and, as Steven said, could also be made today, but by whom - I do not know :-\
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mich19uk, your images are very large and cause screen scrolling to be able to see them for those of us using smaller screens or laptops. Can we take copies and add them to the board so they are resizeable to everyone who wants to look at them without the scrolling problem please?
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I see you're now selling this on ebay - an acknowledgement of where you got the attribution from would be polite.....
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Info here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,23766.0.html
John
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Pamela, thanks very much for the information. I understand what you are saying now. I really do appreciate it. :thup:
Anne, I'm really sorry for the large pictures. I must learn how to make them smaller and remember to do that before I add them. If you did want to make them smaller feel free.
Mosquito, sorry I didn't realise I was being watched. I have added the acknowledgement now, it was very helpful thank you.
John, many thanks for the link!
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Hi friends,
I am afraid I have to inform you that this piece (and also many "Schlevogt" designs) had been copied and manfuactured in Czech republic quite recently. This "princess decanter" was quite popular shape few years ago. The guidance is - look at the pressing quallity - when poor so its is surely recent fake.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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Jindrich, thanks a lot for confirming Steven's and my thoughts - very much appreciated! :kissy:
Can you find the measurements of an original somewhere in your files, please?
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I am afraid, I cannot help you Pamela, I have two "Prinzessin" sets (in clear and malachite green) but both are fakes. In fact, I have no evidence about original Schlevogt pieces of this type. Perhaps Mr. Nový from Jablonec museum will be able to give you correct answer (http://www.msb-jablonec.cz/kontakt/). I would like to help you but I am too busy to promise it. But I will keep it in my files.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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Further information found :)
Looked at this catalogue again today:
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/archiv/pdf/pk-2007-4w-02-mb-weil-1970.pdf
I do not know whether the date '1970' is correct, however obviously Glassexport exported these items to USA also.
A 'Prinzessin' is offered by this US wholesaler, pattern # 719, height indicated 6¼" which is approx. 155 mms and matches my smaller white decanter.
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Forgot to mention, that Geiselberger names 'Vogel & Zappe' as original manufacturer
Jindrich, please?
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Another PK contribution of Dir. Stopfer, Vienna:
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2008-3w-stopfer-vogel-zappe.pdf
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