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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on April 11, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
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I can find an image of the larger piece, but can't seem to get a name pinned to it - but cud very well be Helena Tynell (Riihimaen Lasi) - so wud be very grateful for confirmation or otherwise please, and wud interested if this design has a 'name'. Might the smaller one be from the same source? Thanks for looking.
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Hi Paul,
The cased one looks like ´Reimari´ by Tamara Aladin; the clear one´s vaguely ringing
a bell - but to no avail yet... :huh:
http://www.designlasi.com/en/content/reimari-1465-aladin-tamara-en
Regards,
Dirk
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my sincere thanks Dirk for your helpful reply - I must admit that Finnish glass is rather growing on me :) I see that the colours mentioned for this design are 'clear', 'olive' and 'amber' - is the colour of mine supposed to be the colour of a Kalamata? - or is mine something else do you think.
Look forward to your attribution for the clear piece some time, if you do manage to 'run it down' . thanks Paul S.
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The clear one is a textured Candleholder from Dartington Glass, so it's English. FT195, designed by Frank Thrower in 1975.
Much under rated, I like that lightly mottled texture.
John
Re the colour of the Tamara Aladin vase, here's a few examples (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11747).
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....." I see that the colours mentioned for this design are 'clear', 'olive' and 'amber' - is the colour of mine supposed to be the colour of a Kalamata? - or is mine something else do you think"........ thanks Paul S.
Hmmm... the designlasi.com are withholding information from foreign visitors. ;) They mention only those 3 colours in English, but in Finnish the same vase mentions 6 colours produced. In addition to those John shows in the picture, another "blue", darker I suppose.
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John - thanks for the link re other colour examples of the 'Reimari' vase - very attractive. From pics. of glass that I have looked at for these two designers, it wud seem that Tynell designs are textured (usually), whilst Aladin pieces are usually smooth - and although I'm sure this is not without exception, I must remember that for future, it might help.
I looked at the base of the clear piece - didn't see a 'D', and then forgot to look in the Dartington book :pb: - anyway thanks for that id.
px - thanks, obviously the factory weren't thinking of a Klamata when they chose the olive colour ;D, I wonder which of the colours are the rarest - and I guess from what you are saying we now must all learn Finnish!! cheers Paul S.
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"is the colour of mine supposed to be the colour of a Kalamata? "
Kalamata is a city on the Peloponnese, Greece. Kalamata olives are grown there. Just to clarify.
Suzy x
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Suzy - thanks, you obviously have a good knowledge of Greek geography (been out with a lot of blokes called Jason eh? ;) Apologies, I shud have made myself clearer - I was just drawing attention to the fact that olives come in two colours. Dirk's reply indicated there were three colours for my vase i.e. clear - olive and amber, and since mine wasn't clear or amber, was jokingly guessing that maybe it was being likened to a Kalamata olive - since obviously it wasn't the standard pale olive colour. There now - haven't I just confused everyone ;D (including myself). cheers Paul S.
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Ok, I'm 100% sure I've seen and eaten olives in way more than two colours......
Paul does your Reimari vase have moulded concentric circles on the base? All mine did and a few other Aladin designs tend to too. :D Anyway, so far I have only noticed these concentric circles on her designs and guess they may be a clue to which designs are hers. Bet not all of Aladin's designs carry them though....
John
Argghh, stupid me, there they are at the top of the page. Doh.
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Can't stand olives, never been out with a Jason - Adonis and Herucles (Herakles) yes - no kidding! Even knew an Aphrodite!
Suzy x
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I am not going to tell you if I like olives or not. ::)
But before, Paul, you will start studying Finnish :) I could tell you some backround of your vase - REIMARI is a sea mark. The Finnish archipelago is filled with hazards, a lot of rocks also under water. The old style west-mark (länsiviitta) had two cone shaped baskets with their tips against eachother http://www.saimaalle.com/kuvat/merimerkit.jpg (http://www.saimaalle.com/kuvat/merimerkit.jpg) (nowadays they often come without the baskets, you see the difference only from how the paint is in the stick)
Finally of Reimari colours (just to be sure not to get banned...) I do not know which colours are rarest but in the reprint of Riihimäen 1974 pricelist there are only olive and amber mentioned.
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px - 'an archipelago filled with hazzards' sounds like we're back with Jason and the 'clashing rocks' ;D - mind you, I wud'nt mind meeting a 'siren' or two at the moment ;) Thanks for the very interesting link, and if I understand correctly you are saying that Aladin designed this particular vase with the shape of this 'REIMARI' sea warning mark in mind. When you talk of an 'olive' colour you do of course mean the pale geenish/tan coloured sort (not the black Kalamata kind). I prefer the darker colours, so I like the deep smoky blue of my one, and the reference to less common sorts was because like all collectors I salivate and dribble when there is the chance of having something rare as opposed to common......the mouth goes dry, the palms sweat etc. etc. However, I think we have exhausted this one now, so my thanks to all for the interest and help.
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:pb:
The clashing rocks are "Scilla" - Sirens lure sailors to their deaths by singing......
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o.k. - I get the point ;D ;D - and whilst on the subject of being 'got at' - it has been pointed out to me by a GMB member that I should cease using some contracted forms of words - as this may possibly confuse those member for whom English is not their first language. I am referring in particular to 'shud' and 'wud' - so my apologies to all those people that I have confused, and will avoid in future. :-[
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Wasn't "getting" at you, really - I was just being a smart a*se, :-[ and this was something that quite unrelatedly, in a different place, that cropped up this-morning...
(but I really appreciate your committment to giving up text-style-typing. English speakers who do not use mobile 'phones or texting find it difficult and irritating!)
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thanks Sue, no offence taken - and just for the record, although I possess a mobile, I don't actually use it.............and as for texting, well I genuinely wouldn't know how! :) - I'm too old you see - but it's just that outside of glass I'm also a smart a*se ;D ;D Let us now desist from this one.......... cheers Paul S.