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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on April 12, 2010, 07:38:18 PM
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last one for this evening. The guy at the boot sale swore blind it was Whitefriars, so I paid four quid, but now I can't find it in the books. 125mm tall, lovely polished pontil indent, and with hollow handle. The construction is not 'cased', but does have that 'Pewter' look of some of the later wfrs. pieces. I have googled 'tankards' on the whitefriars.com site but didn't help me, so grateful for ideas please, and as always my thanks for looking.
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well, presumably it's not - but having looked and thought a bit more, I remembered that the Wedgwood decanter that I posted on 28/3 had a hollow handle also. So, might the fact that this tankard has a hollow handle indicate that it was Wedgwood as well?? Not necessarily a very academic piece of deduction but clutching at straws really. Are there any Wedgwood buffs out there who might know if this common denominator meant anything, or are hollow handles not uncommon on a variety of productions. And is this deep smoky colour a Wedgwood trade mark, or not. Just felt I wanted to get to the bottom of this one.
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Knew we'd discussed these sometime Paul: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4058.0.html - no conclusion as yet though. :(
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My (somewhat pathetic) thoughts were also along the lines of Wedgwood - going by the hollow handle alone.
It looks like a good piece of something, Paul - but is it easy to drink from? It looks as if there's an attractive, but completely impractical, turn-in on the rim.....
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Anne - sincere thanks for spending time hunting that link - very interesting, although I notice you say that your item has a solid handle. I really thought I might have had a good lead when I compared my tankard to my Wedgwood decanter - but seems to have fizzled out a bit now. Certainly the moulded rings around the body are quite similar. I have in fact just sent off for Susan Tobin's book re Wedgwood - don't know if that will help me though. I wonder if Steven did actually buy the tankard he saw in the charity shop?
Sue - yes, well at least we were both thinking along the same lines re the handle issue - I must be improving ;) - and it is a quality piece. I tend not to use the things I buy - might one day pick up something of real value and end up breaking it, especially if alchohol was involved - I beleive the top rim is quite thick (can't quite remember exactly, as I'm at work at the moment) - so could be a mouth full. I wonder why the guy at the boot sale felt so convinced it was wfrs.
Perhaps Ivo is correct with Empoli - but hopefully someone will have a definitive answer soon.
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I imagine the wfs attribution was made on the basis of it having a round polished pontil mark, Paul!
My guts don't say Empoli, but I only really know the big coloured textured bottles with matching stoppers, which are not of remotely the same sort of quality as this. (but I still like them).
A thick rim would be easy enough to drink from - it's the turned-over-and-in bit I think would result in the contents dribbling down my chin rather than into my mouth!
(not that I can't manage to get stuff dribbling down my chin anyway - and I don't touch alcohol any more, so I can't blame that!)
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I would put big money on it not being W/Fs . ;)
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thanks jp - think we would all do that now ;D
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Magnor, Norway. :smg:
John
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many thanks for your time and trouble spent looking John - really appreciated. One more down, umpteen still to go. Just putting another 'tankard' over in the 'British' section - although I do know (I think) whose that is. :sun:
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You going to tell him or shall I ;D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCARCE-HOOPED-STYLE-WHITEFRIARS-TANKARD-BAXTER-POWELL-/140537722507?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item20b8b3768b
Chris
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thanks Chris - looks like someone playing the 'word association game' again - will leave it to you if you would like to inform this seller, as I don't have any experience of ebay workings. Seems like overdoing the imagination too much to use the Powell name ;D but I guess the unwary probably would'nt know.