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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: blowing_bubbles on April 25, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
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Hello all, New today to this board. Looks really interesting.
I have a nice little vase that was my great Aunts. I have seen similar styles but would like to identify it. It has the original frog :mrgreen: Pleased with myself as I had no idea that was what it was called until an hour ago ! I would like to know a little more about and it's possible collectable interest and likely value. There are no markings, frog is complete but chips to one area. I will try to load a picture here. Any help appreciated. Vase is more pink than the pic makes it look
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Hi, welcome to the board,
No idea on this one, it's a pattern I've seen before, but as far as I'm aware the maker is still unkown. It might do better moved to the main glass forum as I doubt it is British. I think it's more likely to be continental in origin, possibly Czech, but I wouldn't rule out Poland or Yugoslavia....
Steven :)
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thanks Steven,
Having googled deco pressed glass, I thought it looked similar to Bagley, Jobling or Sowerby. Would those makes always have makeres marks on their pieces ? Thanks
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Hello,me again,not all pieces are marked some just say made in England others have registration numbers which can be difficult to see,try running your fingers around the base or inside,if possible,sometimes you can feel them,
Keith.
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Thanks Keith, No luck I'm afraid, seems to be unmarked.
It has a soft satin feel and look to it and inside at the top corners there seems to be a slight build up a residue which is whitish and does scrape off. I obviously don't want to damage it. Does anyone have a magic solution for cleaning this sort of glass ? Many thanks
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Hello b-b - although I am unable to really help, if Keith and Steven have suggested possibly not British, then you may care to look at Pamela's wonderful selection of images. Just a thought, especially as these guys have mentioned continental.
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de - my collection and some friends' glasses
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de - my friends' collection of glass catalogues
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thanks Steven,
Having googled deco pressed glass, I thought it looked similar to Bagley, Jobling or Sowerby. Would those makes always have makeres marks on their pieces ? Thanks
It's definitely not Jobling & I'm 99% sure it's neither Bagley nor Sowerby.
Re. makers marks, a great deal of this type of glass is unmarked. Jobling registered most (but not all) of their 1930s art glass designs, meaning many will have a moulded reg. no. or 'regn. applied for' mark, though there are exceptions. Some of their opalescent output was additionally signed with an engraved mark "Jobling's" "Opalique". Sowerby is certainly not always marked, though some is marked with a reg. no. & earlier patterns may have the moulded peacock's head trade mark. Quite a few Bagley pieces (but again, not all) I've handled have been marked 'Made in England' near the base, while others which were registered will have the appropriate number in the mould.
Really the best way to identify this type of thirties decorative glass is to learn the common patterns. A good starting point is Pamela Wessendorf's excellent site www.pressglas-pavillon.de For Bagley patterns you can search the collection at the Waskefield Museum site here: http://www.wakefieldmuseums.org/modes_holdingpages/modes_knottingley_glass.html The collection is not exhaustive however, if you're really interested in Bagley then it's worth investing in Angela's book, available here: http://www.glass-time.com/orderbagleyglassbook.html
For Jobling, the best book is Baker & Crowe's A Collectors Guide to Jobling 1930s Decorative Glass This has been out of print for years, however & is quite expensive to buy if you can find it. I have also some galleries of pieces from my collection here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingofbananas/sets/72157622557471351/ & here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=56
For Sowerby, the best resource is Glen Thistlewood's Sowerby CDs, available here: http://www.thistlewoods.net/Sowerby-e-Books.html
Finally Black Poppy's site has some nice photos of thirties glass here: http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/
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If your residue scrapes off then frosted glass comes to no harm with a scourer or a cream cleaner. Don't use them on any other glass though. If you're worried try it on the bottom if its frosted.
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Also, the white residue might just be limescale. If so, then any limescale remover should work. Personally I've found Lidl's W5 limescale remover to work very well, though there are many other brands available, usually based on citric acid. Just apply & scrub the area with a toothbrush or similar. If it is scale, then you'll see bubbles form when it reacts with the acid. You could also try white vinegar, this being acidic, should also help.
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Thanks guys for excellent answers and pointers above. As a Newbie I am very impressed.
Do glass collectors and enthusiasts have a collective name for their interest ?
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On here "glassoholism" :24: There is no cure
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Least to say - get´s worse the longer you stay here. :chky:
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Hello Blowing-Bubbles. I Am new here myself and enjoying every moment! All seem a nice bunch of folks! I have the same identical vase as the one you showed, but in amber matt glass, which I have always considered to be a Sowerby item, unless somebody out there has a different idea? I asscociate the vase as a Sowerby piece because of other glassware in my collection which was made at the same factory due to its pattern and feel. Please see my photos (if they are successfully attached) where I show you an example of this. I am fairly certain that the comport and vase are interchangable Sowerby items and the similarities between those and the vase, perhaps point to the same place of origin. The vase may have had the option of an added black glass plinth also, which Sowerby also provided for and who knows, there may even be a comport bowl out there somewhere for our vases? . PLEASE NOTE: I am looking for a spare blue vase to fit the blue comport bowl if anybody can help? There's a amber one on Ebay, but BLUE is my need! Hope I have helped you Bubbles. Jazz.
P.S. So sorry about the photos. I cannot seem to get it right. I had the same problems all day yesterday with trying to send some to Anne about my Iridescent Vase.
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jazimmons - sorry you are having problems with up-loading the pics. You may care to try Anne's 'techie tips' here........http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html
hope this helps - but if it doesn't do please ask again. cheers Paul S.
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The vase in question is not Sowerby, Davidson or Bagley.
If you resize your pictures so the longest dimension is about 700 pixels, that usually gives a good result. Windows has photo editing software; Paint will do
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jazz - re the posting of pics., and to offer a very basic step-by-step guide, would suggest that initially you download the free programme called 'Irfanview'. This will enable you to 're-size' your pictures (without which you will never succeed in posting a full sized camera image - the GMB hardware will always reject your pics if too big). First of all, we will assume you have already taken your pictures, and loaded onto your hard-drive. Then, as Lustrousstone suggests, you will need to access your pictures - via Irfanview - and then re-size to 700 x 525. Don't forget to then 'save' the re-sized image - this is important. Having shrunk the image, you should then be able to post a maximum of four pictures - in this re-sized format - onto a 'New Topic' - and hopefully all will work. If it doesn't, then come back and we will try again.
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Thanx Paul. Will try and try again and agian untill I get this sorted, for am bound to use G.M.B. as and when. It is fantastic! By the way, did you get my email to your own email address? You're very kind to help me. Jazz.
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Paul. Will try right now to do as you say and downloaded a trial attachment to my "Iridescent Vase" question hoping that I have eventually grasped things? Will check that post out myself also, in say ten minutes from NOW! Ready, steady GO! :thup: Jazz
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A cheap digital camera is easy to use(if I can use it anyone can)plugs into the usb thingy,when the pic's are on screen click on file and it says..resize pictures,small,medium or large,no fiddlin' about,made for techno thickies like me!
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hello jazz - yes, did get your off board email, and will reply soon. Can't imagine that anyone is less pc literate than me, and feel sure you will get the hang of things soon. We are all here to try and help one another, if we can :)
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Don't "Save" the resized image. Do a "Save as" and rename; otherwise you lose your original
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yes, that is, of course, the more technically correct thing to do, so thanks to Christine as always :)
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Thankx Guys 'N Girls, am going off the board now to do some much-needed PC practice! GLASS is no probs, we should stick to just THAT, as for these PC's? They are all naff to get to grips with! Unlike a Whitefriars Banjo, but that's another story. Will wait for your email Paul and my C.V is in the post! Rouge may not be your colour, but forgot to mention the polishing benefits of Max Factor :spls: night-night all to you HERE 'til 2morro. Jazz
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however, think we have all side tracked the original post somewhat - probably my fault mostly - not something that should happen, so apologies to blowing-bubbles. Good idea to keep to the original subject - otherwise threads become confusing :)