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Title: are these whitefriars?
Post by: wildesantiques on April 29, 2010, 01:05:12 AM
I have 3 lovely vases, and was wondering if someone could identify these? I was told they were possibly Whitefriars, but I have no idea?

Thanks

Tim
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: Anne on April 29, 2010, 02:23:54 AM
Hi Tim, and welcome to the board. It helps enormously if you would post each item in a separate topic please so we don't lose track of what we're saying about each of them, and makes for archiving the items easier afterwards too.

The top one of your three has been discussed on the board before but I'm not sure we reached a conclusion...
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22469.0.html

Can't help with the other two though, sorry, but no doubt someone will be able to. I'll move this to GLASS as we've not reason to think these are British / Irish glass yet.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: wildesantiques on April 29, 2010, 03:21:24 AM
Hi Anne

thanks for the reply comments. I will make sure i post any others separately. sorry this is all new to me.

I think I am now completely confused about the first vase, seems to be a tricky one.

Hopefully more luck with the other 2.

Regards

Tim
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: Cathy B on April 29, 2010, 04:54:18 AM
Funnily enough, I could tell from the selection of vases that you are in Australia! :) The first two are very common here.

The first two are definitely not Whitefriars, and the I don't recognise. The first one isn't actually tricky. I have a picture somewhere on an old computer in which this vase is labelled "Old Colony, Made in Japan". However, it was getting on seven or eight years ago, and I'd stolen the pic from an eBay auction without at the time realising that it was unethical. Thus, even if I can find it on the old hard drives, I won't be able to post it.

So for now it remains a mystery until it crops up on eBay with a label again.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: vidrioguapo on April 29, 2010, 07:23:58 AM
I can say that none are Whitefriars.  I'd agree that the first one is possibly Japanese, certainly seen similar textures on vases with labels from Japan  the orange one could be Caithness , no idea on the third one.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: chrisffc on April 29, 2010, 08:55:49 AM
Hi there :) The 1st is a riihimaki piece and is pictured in most millers books. The other 2 I'm not sure, could well be Caithness.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 29, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
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The 1st is a riihimaki piece and is pictured in most millers books.

It might be pictured but the attribution is wrong! Millers books are fallible.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: vidrioguapo on April 29, 2010, 09:37:02 AM
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It might be pictured but the attribution is wrong! Millers books are fallible.

Ah! Now I see why these are often on ebay described as Riihimaki!!! You have to take the Millers attributions with a large pinch of salt sometimes!!
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: kane_u_pain on April 29, 2010, 09:48:31 AM
The first one is Japanese. As to the other 2 i have no clue. The first one I have in green but have seen many similar examples in varying colours all attributed to Riihimaki. Am yet to locate the Japanese company that made them and most likely never will. Still a good piece and I am thinking one of the better Japanese makers. It is definitely in the style of many Scandi pieces with a Whitefriars feel.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: chriscooper on April 29, 2010, 03:14:32 PM
Hi, have also seen this described as 'Old colony' here is a link to one's in the whitefriars.com mistaken identities section, hope this helps
Chris

http://tinyurl.com/2ecj6rg

http://tinyurl.com/377u7ax

Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: Tadpole on April 29, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Could the bottom one be from the Wedgwood midnight grey range ? I have some and they look very similar, might be worth googling them. Not all of mine are marked on the base some just have a sticker.
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: wildesantiques on April 30, 2010, 01:11:13 AM
Thanks all for the helpful comments, even if the first vase has brought much confusion. Are these "Old Colony" vases fairly common? or are they worth very much? I haven't had any luck finding out much about them.

Thanks

Tim
Title: Re: are these whitefriars?
Post by: Cathy B on April 30, 2010, 01:40:15 AM
On eBay.au, at any given time you'll be able to find one or two of these. They seem to be fairly common. I have an orange one, but I've seen red, blue, green...