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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: peejyweejy on April 30, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
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Can anyone tell me if any maker made engraved, roemer glasses with prunts, that have apllied metal at the foot of a twisted stem - possibly brass or copper? Or, are they a new invention. Unfortunately, I have no photo!
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unfortunately this is a case where photographs are indispensable...
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Thanks Ivo...I'll see what I can do, but probably not till Monday, there is one in a collectables shop about 15 miles from where I live, so I will take a trip back early next week.
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Got some pics of this roemer - unusual?
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...and another couple.
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I wonder if this might have been a repair done to the glass where the stem has broken away from the foot?
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Hi,
just had the same thought...
It looks like a Römer from Theresienthal, see Stephan Buse´s site (scroll down):
http://www.roemer-aus-theresienthal.de/historismusaufl.html
You could try contacting him and ask if there´s any chance they´ve been made in such a way originally.
Personally I doubt it, sorry.
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Hi,
your pictures show the roemer number 793, designed by Theresienthal around 1895.
Your item has been broken :cry: and fixed >:(. Theresienthal never made it in such way!!!!
Regards
Stephan
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Thank you, Stephan! I would have been really, really surprised about a different answer.
Great site of yours BTW! :thup:
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I have two of these....do you think they have both been broken and fixed?
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Probably, we've seen many examples of both glass and ceramic items being repaired and used from years past. The idea of a throwaway society is a relatively modern one... certainly earlier generations made things last much longer than folks do these days. Perhaps your glasses had a weak point in the stem where the breaks were fixed?
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Well,
either only one of this roemers was broken and fixed and the other one got the metal to make him look similar or both roemers were broken and treated this way. :huh:
If you want to know it for sure: Take away the applied metal. But maybe you will have two broken roemers and no way to fix them again.
Regards
Stephan
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Thanks for your replies all....Does this repair greatly devalue the roemers? To be honest, I will be keeping them just because they are Theresienthal and repair or no - in my opinion, they have their place in history and a place in my heart now. :)
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In Germany there are not more than five specialised collectors of items from the glassworks of Theresienthal. As far as i know each of these collectors has got at least one roemer 793 in nearly mint condition. I myself have got five roemers 793 in different colours and with different decorations in my collection. End of May an auction sale will offer three of these roemers 793 (in a different colour but) undamaged without limit. I expect them to be sold for around 100 Euro (together, not each!). It is great that your roemers got a place in your heart and they surely have their place in history, but none of us collectors would give them a place in his collection.
Sorry, but that is the reality.
Regards
Stephan
http://www.roemer-aus-theresienthal.de
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Thanks Stephan, for your honesty, at least I know how a "Theresienthal" roemer looks and feels and can look out for an undamaged one or two ;D
Your web site is excellent, but is there an English version? My German is very limited. :-[
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I am sorry, but my English is very limited. That is the reason why up to now i didn`t be able to edit an English version of my website. And without some help of someone who has great knowledge in English and Glass it won`t change. :cry:
Regards
Stephan
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Whilst I think an English version of your site would be an extremely useful resource to the glass world - I know too little about glass. Had I known more, I would defnitely volunteer to help you.
Hope I don't get my knuckles rapped but, perhaps, someone else here might be able to help?????