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Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Tigerchips on November 24, 2005, 04:14:44 PM
Half moon bowl/seat. It looks a bit like a "Twilight" bowl from Caithness or a Riihimaki bowl.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20942.jpg

I've seen this before someware? Neil Armstrong's space suit perhaps?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20944.jpg

Any comment's welcome.  :)
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Pinkspoons on November 24, 2005, 04:26:12 PM
No idea... but I love the second one because it's just so... bizarre.
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Tigerchips on November 24, 2005, 08:12:33 PM
I paid £5.50 each for them but I don't mind if they aren't worth anything. I just love the one that looks like a 70's style seat.

Look at number 50 on this Riihimaki site
http://glassart.5u.com/pictures.html

Looks the same but it isn't.  8)
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Pinkspoons on November 24, 2005, 09:34:14 PM
I've got this page bookmarked too, and went to it the moment I saw yours because there was a flicker of recognition in my memory. Alas, t'was not to be!  :)
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Connie on November 24, 2005, 09:37:33 PM
The first one reminded me of a Morgantown Glass piece. I looked it up but the base is different from the Morgantown ones also.
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Pinkspoons on November 24, 2005, 09:41:14 PM
If it wasn't for that pesky base, we would have gotten away with it...  :lol:
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Max on November 24, 2005, 10:30:37 PM
I've seen a similar one on Ebay recently, allegedly marked as Caithness....  :)
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Tigerchips on November 24, 2005, 11:52:49 PM
What's an odd ball?  :shock:

Oddball (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amber-Odd-Ball-Pitcher-Morgantown_W0QQitemZ7366194164QQcategoryZ1026QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Tigerchips on June 04, 2006, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: "Max"
I've seen a similar one on Ebay recently, allegedly marked as Caithness....  :)

A year later...

I can see the similarities to the bowl and a Caithness twilight vase but I would have expected the glass to be a lot thicker and polished on the rim. Could be wrong though.

Both items are thin on the rim parts, especially the bowl as it's extremely thin.

The storage canister reminds me of a Lemington canister I had as it's the same colour, though I think this canister is a bit lighter and the rim is finished differently. So probably nothing to do with that.
Title: Re: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 11, 2008, 09:16:44 AM
Another possible contender for the first vase is Wiesenthaler Glashütte - seen a few variations on a theme by them recently.
Title: Re: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: paradisetrader on August 13, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
Kudos for picking up on old threads, Nic.
I can't believe I had nothing to say on this the first time round. Hmmm

The cannister / jar.
I have seen these or very similar quite a few times though not frequently, mostly cased over white, though not always. They are usually attr as Italian and nearly always Ponti (Gio Ponti) is mentioned or attributed. Italian is a very reasonable guesstimate. The Ponti connection appears so consistently that I began to give it credence but if you want to be accurate then it has to be viewed sceptically as I have never seen one attribution with book references. I have looked thru my own Murano books just to make sure and nothing.

Gio Ponti one of those magical names in the world of design and architecture. He did design for 3 Murano firms: SALIR, CSP-AVM and of course Venini and did a lot of work in interior design generally. In Murano books his multicoloured striped vases and decanters are usually the pieces shown. In Jackson's list of items he designed for Venini there's no mention of jars or containers.

The quality of the ones I've seen is generally good to high. The cased ones are generally more desirable. There are many variations on the general shape. Other stoppers to appear but the large ball is the iconic shape and is most frequently associated with Ponti.  Large hollow ball stoppers do appear on a number of Italian items.
Pete
Title: Re: Retro space age design. Identification please.
Post by: Pinkspoons on August 13, 2008, 12:33:57 PM
Well I spotted some labelled Wiesenthaler bowls of similar form, and they rung some bells, fired some synapses, and prompted about 20 minutes of searching on here to dig up this thread.  ;D