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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: keith on May 12, 2010, 02:48:34 PM
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Never seen an air trap pwt before,4 inches high,hollow and broken pontil,any particular factory known for producing these or to general to say?
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This style has been produced in Murano and purportedly in the US (Mt. Washington).
I have seen a similar paperweight with a Murano label.
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I believe these were produced by Fenton Glass (among others). The base does not look typical Murano (at least in the photo). Do you recall what the base was like on the one you saw, Alexander? There was a round Satin weight in a shop around my area; I will try to stop by and take a look (if it is still there).
Lily :)
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Hi Keith, I sure love this item. Satin glass has fascinated me and I have several early items. The fact that is HOLLOW, may perhpas indicate it''s final intention as being a lampshade??? Hot glass will "suck-in" once no air is allowed to penetrate and the concave base of your piece may give rise to my views??? Is it heav by proportion to it's size? The satin glass that I have is exceptionally heavy, even the small vases, due to the amount of cased crystal as used to produced it. I do not think it is a paperweight, but as to the origin? I cannot say! Jazz :spls:
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Thanks,Lily,Alexander,did wonder about the USA but not Murano,
Jazz;it's only 4 inches high so a bit small for a lampshade,it's not what I call heavy and I wouldn't say my other pieces are particularly heavy,we must be getting our air trap from different sources :thup:( there is one small 'jug' and always wondered if it was American)
Keith
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Alexander's not the only one with the idea of a Murano heritage. While not solving this mystery, it does point one in that direction. Perhaps including this in the Murano section might be helpful.
http://www.tias.com/7534/PictPage/3923450452.html
Lily :huh:
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Thanks again Lily,been collecting glass for 17 years and until today never seen a satin air trap pwt,will have to do some research on Murano pwt's,ta,Keith.
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I have seen blue and pink ones with Murano labels....but, this is not a design exclusive to Murano, or paperweights.
The ones I have seen labelled were hollow and had ground off pontils, leaving a small concave mark where the pontil was broken off
and the rough edges ground away.
The ones I have seen have not had the "egg" shape like this, more the usual paperweight shape or almost round.
Sibylle Jargstorf, in her book "Paperweights" also shows a pink example similar to this one and attributes it to Murano ca 1950'ies.
I have one in my collection that is blue, almost round, hollow and with the remnants of a metallic label.
The remnants of the label are similar to those left by washed out Murano labels, and at probably not much older than the 1940'ies.
The satin air trap design has been seen in US products, some paperweights with the design attributed to Mt. Washington,
altho I belive this has not been conclusively confirmed.
There are other glass objects with this design that are, as far as I know, Mt. Washington,
so it is quite possible that they also made paperweights like this.
I have also seem items like this attributed to UK and "Bohemian" manufacturers.
The design is often referred to as "MOP" or "Mother Of Pearl".
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Well, I took a trip by the shop with the Satin weight. It is very similar to the photo shown on tias (although pink) and as you describe, Alexander. The base is slightly concave and the pontil broken but not particularly smoothed off. The pontil is rough but the base is concave enough for the weight to sit well. The MOP looks so lovely under the light. The price tag is $100 ... a bit much I would think. No one at the shop knew anything about it. Ah well, it was fun to check it out again.
Lily :)
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Lily,Alexander;
Thanks again plenty for me to look up,$100 not bad then,paid a LOT less than that ;D
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Hi Keith,
Nice item!! :mrgreen:
Do you find it in the Birmingham Bull Ring Rag market?
I have been wanting to ask you whether it was good for finding glass. It is difficult for me to go because of the day job, unfortunately... But if I knew that it holds undiscovered treasures, I would try and make a special effort (don't worry I won't compete too much, I concentrate exclusively on paperweights).
Any tips for finding (cheap) paperweights around the Brum area are welcome!!!
SophieB
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Hello Sophie,
I've picked up some really good pieces at the fair in the monthly show,including a very nice Strathearn pwt,an iridescent Mtarfa weight and a Royal Brierley pwt to mention just a few,well worth a visit,here's a few recent finds,Keith.
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:mrgreen: KEITH, that sure is a lovely piece iridescent green, albeit with its rusted metal attachment! It is my own understanding that these metal additions were manufactured out of house, which probably accounts as to why so many items of this continental type have unpolished/unfinished top rims to them? :spls: I have always been of the opinion myself, that the glass can and should stand alone, without these metal mounts. For they are seldom as good as the glass, being somewhat cheaply produced additionals, but hey, this glass was being shipped HERE when the market wanted flower-posy vases etc., and so who can blame the importers who had the mind to add metal! Have you considered restoring the metal attatchment? It would not detract from the glass I am sure? Once sanded smooth, perhaps gold leaf (which is not expensive and easilly applied) would result the entire into a super piece? ::) Jazz
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Thanks Jazz,the pic' doesn't really show it's true colour which is brighter,it's a Kralik ribbed bowl,might do something with the wire mesh,as you say it would look a lot better,got a few of these 'flower bowls now,here's a couple more,
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Keith, please do not mix non-weights and weights in the Paperweights forum. It causes confusion.
If you would like to create new posts in the Glass forum for the two vases, they can be dicusssed there. I (or another Mod can then tidy up this thread by removing the non-paperweights info.
Thanks.
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:-[sorry I forgot this was the pwt section,old age.senility etc....is my excuse :pb:
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KEITH, got your photos as just fine . . . I have also my own numerous items of this type, most if not all, with identical metal top mounts! Can we assume that these mounts wer ALL made by the the same metal manufacturer? I am prety sure that glass importers would have used the same? Some of which obviously lost the plot . . . Having tried to re-design a piece of beautiful GLASS, with their so-called mounts of which did THE GLASS, no favours! :huh: Jazz
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Hi Keith,
Nice finds. I should have gone ages ago.
Many thanks for the info. I will make a point of going to the next one (to grab as many paperweight bargains as I can...).
SophieB