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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: culverwood on May 13, 2010, 09:56:49 AM
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Iridescent glass vase with bubbles throughout. The base is quatrefoil form. It is 14cm high. There are no markings.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/culverwood/CIMG1609.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/culverwood/CIMG1610.jpg)
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If anyone knows where it comes form I would be very pleased to know.
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So do I. Very much indeed. :thup:
I have three different pieces like this and have never managed to find out what they are. A yellow one, and two clearish ones., all different shapes.
I had a 4th, in powder blue but gave it to somebody.
I've had them since ~ 2001.
I really don't think they're Chinese. :angel:
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I too would like to know - like Sue I've had a few of these, one a taller cylindrical vase in powder blue but with the same wispy cased powders & iridescence as well as a vaguely Monarty looking footed vase (shown below) in this green with bubbles. After searching high & low for a maker, I eventually gave up & passed them on...
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I have been ferreting around since I posted the iridescent vase and have come up with this.
http://www.moltabellaglass.com/items/551157/en1store.html
"This is a rare Mario Pinzoni vase for Seguso Vetri d' Arte, circa mid 19364. The same series piece is pictured on page 141 of Rosa Mentasti's book Venetian Glass 1890-1990. I will try to add the reference picture at a later date for those who do not have the book. It has a unique bubble design with additional specks inside. The exterior is an iridescent finish. The piece does not have any damage, a few air bubbles exposed at the top, clearly done in the making. Unmarked. Measures 4 1/2 inches tall and 3 3/4 inches wide. Perhaps this is an earlier 1930's Barovier piece or Flavio Poli for Seguso. They all produced similar techniques."
A very similar example to the iridescent vase appears in '20th Century Glass' by Judith Miller, p.32. The example illustrated in the book is by Pinzoni, Seguso Vetri D'Arte.
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I'm looking at p32, there is a mention of Pinzoni, but no pictures of anything made by him.
Trocadero is a very reliable source, although I had thought to lean a bit towards Eastern Europe for these pieces.
They don't turn up often and I do grab them when I find them.
The bubble part of the design is similar to pieces by Schott-Zweizel, and this very rainbowy iridesence is one I tend to associate with "Bohemian" glass and ceramics.
I've taken some pics, still need to sort them.
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Some similarities with mine,
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26765.0.html
Mines got a polished base with polished pontil though.
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As you say, the pontil mark is completely different, and it doesn't seem to have the rainbow iridesence wchich is a major feature of the bits we're talking about. Your bubbles seem diferent too - smaller, and they don't extend into the colour.
I can see where David is coming from with Benny Motzfeldt for your bit...... she did like bubbles and inclusions and did do stuff with that sort of orangey red.....
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Youre right Sue, i wasnt looking very closely, mine definitely not iridecent :-[
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I believe these originate in Romania. A more typical color is a yellowish-green, but the bubbles are the same. Don't know the factory name, though.
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Sorry my bigger pics are not very good - my camera only likes very close close-ups.
Bottom of one piece, which, although clear, has a swirly green bit in it;
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/oldglass/querygreenbit.jpg
Close up of the big bubbles with the charcoal? bits which give rise to them and the Nazeing-like bubbles in the the coloured yellow splogdes;
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/oldglass/queryyellowcolourbits.jpg
the three pieces together;
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/oldglass/threequery.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/oldglass/threequery1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/oldglass/threequery2.jpg
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Just thought I'd throw another piece into the mix. It looks somewhat like the vase on the left of Sue's picture of three pieces. I bought my piece without seeing a photo of the base (I know, I know but it was $12.00). I think the piece looks fine until you get near the bottom, and then the base is very roughly finished (not unusual in some American studio glass btw) and has little wear. I thought Chinese originally, but then switched to Eastern European. I think Paul's suggestion Romania is worth following up.
BTW I don't SVdA for any of them is a likely possibility.
David
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I really don't think Italy is where to be looking either and it looks as if quite a few of us have these - so I would very much doubt the "rare" word applies.
Yours seems to have fewer big (charcoal-based???) bubbles, but does seem to have the more densely coloured bits of enamel around the tiny bubbles - the ones I think of as being Nazeing-like, (though they're seen in Grey-Stan and I recently discovered can also be S&W, though these pieces are not those makers) David.
It also seems as if a few of us thought they were quite interesting.
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They are definitely not "rare." I know a woman in Texas who has at least 30 examples. Another "cellophane glass" type mystery. I believe they come from Romania.
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and I believe these may come from Sicily - like this one.
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Just when I thought we'd got Romania pinned down...... :thud: