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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Glasshound on May 18, 2010, 12:21:50 AM
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Hi folks,
I came across this Moser wine glass with Queen Elizabeth's royal monogram engraved on it..I know that Moser has been commissioned for full sets of crystal for various royals.....anyone know if these types of glasses were also made available to the general public?
thanx!
Blair
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I don't think that is her monogram. Her cypher is EIIR; Elizabeth II Regina. I would expect her monogram to be an entwined version of that, not just an E; ER at the very least.
Neither do I think the crown is the right one; looks more like the one from Prince Charles' coat of arms.
I suspect what you have is something monogrammed for someone whose name began with E, the monogram of a non-British royal or a marketing ploy.
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I don't think that is her monogram. Her cypher is EIIR; Elizabeth II Regina. I would expect her monogram to be an entwined version of that, not just an E; ER at the very least.
Neither do I think the crown is the right one; looks more like the one from Prince Charles' coat of arms.
I suspect what you have is something monogrammed for someone whose name began with E, the monogram of a non-British royal or a marketing ploy.
This exact engraving is shown in Moser's book as belonging to Queen Elisabeth's service...
Blair
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The E under a crown is also used as a symbol of Catherine the Great:
http://www.stpetersburger.com/html/glass_easter_eggs4.html (probably nothing to do with your glass but I just thought I'd mention it in case....)
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Moser has confirmed that this is the monogram used for the Elisabeth II service. Supposedly a limited number of these were offered to collectors. I'm trying to find out what year they were offered by Moser.
Blair
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HRH spells her name with a zee not an ess, however Moser might spell it. I've looked in the book, but I wonder if this was a gift rather than a commission for the reasons I noted earlier. Coronation year was 1953 and her state visit was in 1996.
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HRH spells her name with a zee not an ess, however Moser might spell it. I've looked in the book, but I wonder if this was a gift rather than a commission for the reasons I noted earlier. Coronation year was 1953 and her state visit was in 1996.
Actually, to be pendantic, I believe she spells her name with a zed as she does not live in the US).
Carolyn
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No but Blair does >:D
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No but Blair does >:D
Canada! (to be pedantically correct!) ;D
Anywho, I received an answer back from Moser. Supposedly they've been making exact copies of the same glasses that were given to QEII when she got married back in 1947....These were offered to collectors so I'm not too sure how many were made....
/Blair
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hat were given to QEII when she got married back in 1947
That would explain the inaccuracies relating to the crown and the monogram - she wasn't QE II, just Princess E.
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I've just been looking through my catalogue collection and found one for the Moser State Service Suites which shows this glass with one very slight difference: the monogram is gilded unlike Blair's which is ungilded.
Screengrab from the catalogue is attached below for reference. Original image is © Moser, and although the catalogue file is undated, I downloaded it from the Moser website in July 2008, and having just checked, find it's still there: http://www.moser-glass.com/en/novelties/advertising/
Incidentally, there's a curious story about Liberace having a copy of this set as well here:
http://antiques.about.com/od/regionalantiquing/ig/Liberace-Museum-Antiques/Moser-Glass-Collection.htm
http://antiques.about.com/od/regionalantiquing/ig/Liberace-Museum-Antiques/Liberace-s-Moser-Stemware.htm which may well be fanciful, as the Splendid 101060 suite was used by others apart from Queen Elizabeth II, e.g. tha catalogue shows it with the monograms of the Emperor of Ethiopia, Norwegian Royals, an Algerian President, and a Polish Prime Minister, so perhaps anyone with sufficient cash could buy a set and have their own monogram affixed.
Anyhow, as Blair has confirmation this may all be superfluous for him, but might be of interest to others. :)
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Hi all
Found this whilst doing some research on some Moser glasses I picked up at the weekend.
One is the Splendid pattern, Gilded version Elizabeth II, one is Royal pattern King Edward VII
The third one I dont yet know the monogram I think its Royal pattern BUT the stem is airtrap and I cant find another Royal pattern with this.
The fourth glass in the set I dont know a lot about its not marked but somebody has put a handwritten sticker on saying Moser glass. The quality is correct.
I have emailed the picture to Moser and asked for further information, I will of course share the info once recieved
michelle