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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: glassobsessed on May 18, 2010, 01:16:06 PM
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I'm looking to confirm the designer of this vase in citrine yellow with green applied straps, height 20cm. The ZBS sticker I believe dates it to the 50s or 60s.
Here's a photo of the label (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-12854).
Thanks,
John
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Absolutely correct John, 60ies
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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Brilliant, thank you very much Jindrich.
John
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And thank you for adding the label to the collection, John. :kissy:
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I've been photographing labels at bootsales and flea markets for my own reference and for the label gallery (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/index.php?cat=6&PHPSESSID=dd64c1e294c1648a861b34573f164f6c) Anne. It's a bit nerdy and I get funny looks but nobody has objected yet, probably because they are a little surprised/fearful and/or hoping to get rid of me quickly with minimum fuss. ;D
John
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Heh heh heh I can imagine, as I do the same given the chance and access to himself's digikam! ;D
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Ok, now I'm confused: http://markhillpublishing.co.uk/?p=309
Is the book quoted accurate? Was this a design by Frantisek Zemek or Miloslav Klinger? :huh:
John
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Brilliant notice, John.
Raban - Modern Bohemian Glass (Artia 1963) gives at page 74 Zemek vase, height 22 cm, Mstisov 1957.
ZBS one looks very simmilar, but slimmer. I have for the meanwhile no evidence that Zemek designed for ZBS, moreover he died in 1960.
I found another one - also ZBS - take a look at the pictures, and my doubts culminate. Hard to say, it need to be investigated carefully.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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Interesting Jindrich, two separate designs but with similar themes. I think I will have to be satisfied with "likely designed" by Miloslav Klinger for now, especially if Zemek is not known to have designed for Zelezny Brod.
Zemek's death at such a young age was a big loss to glass design, what might he have accomplished through the sixties and seventies?
John
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Sorry John,
I have made a little investigation and I was not correct - Zemek has worked for ZBS in 50ties. I suppose that we can attribuite this shape to him without serious doubts.
Frantisek Zemek was very tallented designer from glassmasters family. BTW his brother Karel was director of Mstisov glassworks...
You are true Frantisek Zemek was badly hurted by car accident on the way back home from Valaske Mezerici Glassworks and died very young.
more about Zemek here
http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/FrantisekZemek?authkey=Gv1sRgCKX52IeMm9aJ8QE#
but you should improve your Czech :-)
František Zemek (* 20.10. 1913 Zlatno u Lučence, + 31.5. 1960 Šumperk)
1928 – 1938 Glassworks Dobronín na Vysočině, appretienship in glass cutting
1938 – 1940 Glassmaking school in Zelezny Brod
1940 – 1948 Academie of Applied Arts Prague, prof. Karel Štipl
1941 Practising in Nizbor Glassworks (Rückl)
1942 - 1946 Glasswork Reich Krásno
1947 - 1950 Glassworks in Teplice
1950 – 1956 Works for ZBS and Skrdlovice
1956 – 1959 Teplické sklo glassworks in Mstišov and Karlovarské sklo – Moser
1959 – 1960 Osvětlovací sklo (light's glasswork) in Valašské Meziříčí
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I'm very interested in this discussion, as I just received a vase in blue-green that looks similar to the one to the right in Jindrich's picture. Is it OK to broaden this topic in this way?
The label dates it ZBS, but later than John's vase (according to Mark Hill, between 1960 and 1980).
Was it common in Czech glass production to keep on producing a design after the death of an artist? And how common was it for another artist, for instance Klinger, to draw inspiration from an earlier design and make his own variety of it?
Astrid
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Jindrich, thank you very much for your hard work.
The available information including the book quoted in the article above does then point to Mr František Zemek as designer.
The 'style' of the design strikes me as from the fifties (I appreciate this is somewhat subjective).
Astrid, it is usual for a glassworks to keep producing (or even modifying) a design after the designer has moved to another glassworks or....
All designers are influenced by what has come before, inspiration has to come from somewhere. There is a great tradition of variation on a theme in both design and art.
John
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Hi Astrid,
in fact in communistic system nobody had taken care about author's right very seriously.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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you have to accept that I have little knowledge of this glass but I just need to add that having looked at another recently posted in the last few days, I hadn't seen the link to this thread before I started looking in books and ...
in Ceske Sklo z let 1940-1980 a private collection part 11
I came across a vase on page 10 that immediately reminded of the vase in question. It's not the same design but has the wraps and the very same spirit :)
it's no 14 designed by Frantisek Zemek
Vasa model c. 52068 navrh do r. 1957
sklarna Palme-Konig Kostany u Teplic (Lit; Wiesner Richard: The Old and the New. In: CGR, sv.12/1957, c.8, s. 2-8, obr. na s. 3
I think that and these are the same maker i.e. Frantisek Zemek and if so - is Palme Konig relevant to this thread maybe?
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