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Title: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 18, 2010, 02:50:44 PM

3.5 inches high,no marks,rather drunk looking 'gent' with no clothes being led away by fawns

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: Glasshound on May 18, 2010, 02:55:01 PM

Doesn't look like it's made of glass to me... 8)

Blair

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 18, 2010, 03:10:10 PM

Not porcelain or pottery,think it's vitroporcelain,chryoprase is the mineral I think they use to add to produce this material,

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: Paul S. on May 18, 2010, 07:42:01 PM

going to stick my neck on the block with this one Keith..........
Chrysoprase is the name given to a naturally occuring apple green chalcedony - something to do with the agates, I think - a semi precious stone.  In the C19 the name Chrysoprase was given to a glass product with a matt surface and containing Uranium  -  on the assumption that the semi-opaque glass (looking green) appeared similar to the mineral.    So your piece has nothing to do with Chrysoprase  -  but may well be vitroporcelain.   From experience, if it is a piece is pottery it will often have a matt pottery like foot ring, if it is glass the piece will usually be very smooth all over.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: jonchellycain on May 18, 2010, 08:05:19 PM

Hi there
probably not much help but the actual glass looks very similar to a westmoreland Jug i have, hard to tell from pictures but seems to have very similar quality colouring thickness and style. Although actual pattern is completly different, so highly likely im in the worng area intirely  ;D.
michelle

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 18, 2010, 08:32:22 PM

It's alright I'm an idiot,cryolite is the name of the stuff,thanks Paul,must be my age.
Michelle;will check Westmoorland,ta all,
                                             Keith.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: jonchellycain on May 18, 2010, 08:34:38 PM

fenton is another possibility
michelle

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: TxSilver on May 18, 2010, 10:41:08 PM

It looks like it could be blanc de chine to me. I had a vase that looked like glass, but it was blanc de chine, also known as China white. It is a type of porcelain. It's difficult to tell from the picture if the pitcher is ceramic or milk glass.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 18, 2010, 11:49:06 PM

Thanks Anita,definite not blanc-de chine have seen that type of porcelain and this is crude by comparison,it's a bit odd this one somewhere between milk glass and vitroporcelain,will have to google some more,
                                                                   Keith.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on May 19, 2010, 04:25:39 AM

Keith

I see these jugs quite often and they are glass with out doubt, I always think that the figures are Pan, I also see them in black , and I always thought that they are Victorian pressed glass

Roy

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 19, 2010, 10:59:54 AM

Thanks Roy,4 of the 6 characters are 'pan' people(not the dance group) have checked Fenton glass and Westmoreland will now try English pressed,ta,
Keith.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: Cathy B on May 21, 2010, 02:37:21 PM

I always assume a drunk bearded bloke would be Bacchus or Dionysus, and I think fauns have the bottom halves of goats? Might help with a google search.

Title: Re: Small Bacchanalian jug,half naked man!id if possible please,
Post by: keith on May 21, 2010, 06:23:45 PM

Thanks Cathy,will google,ta,Keith.