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Title: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: malcmat on May 27, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Hi, have acquired this delicate dish and saucer or side dish not sure which is the right description. It has a star pattern on the base of both pieces the edge of the dish is wavey. further towards the base of the dish it has a raised pattern around the bowl base. It stands 2,5 inches high and 5.5 inches dia across the wavey edge.
Anyhelp on maker and date would be great.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 28, 2010, 01:20:25 PM
sorry - unable to give you an attribution - just a few thoughts after pondering on these pieces.    It looks as though the decoration is coarse machine threading, as opposed to being part of a mould design.   I say that as it appears I can see the end of the thread in one picture.   The other point may just be my eyesight, but looks almost as though the threading may be slightly greenish  -  have you put the torch on them.    Quit a number of Victorian pieces of Cranberry coloured glass had rigaree (or applied glass elements) in U. glass.   As to age, can you detect any noticeable wear?
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 28, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
sorry  :-[    think I was trying to say  'possibly' machine threading  -  I have end of the week 'itis'
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: malcmat on May 28, 2010, 06:11:47 PM
Hi paul s, many thanks for your input the thread indeed does have a beginning and winds round the circumference of the last quarter of the bowl. There is no discernible light emitted when using the back light. The actual colour of the thread is a golden amber colour .There is some wear on the base and under the magnifying glass it has been polished and ground.
Many thanks again
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 28, 2010, 08:13:03 PM
shame about the threading, would have been an added bonus had it glowed.   As you are probably aware, these fancy Cranberry pieces are very common, and unless an exact match can be found in the books, then you are probably on a hiding to nothing.   Your threading is coarse, although that in itself is not uncommon - and having wandered through Manley and Gulliver, similar examples with thick threading are evident.   Bowls with eight way vertical crimps are legion, although the wide rimmed dish seems less so.  Nothing wrong with the colour either I don't think.  From the little I know, pieces like this which generally date to about c1880, have on the base either a snapped pontil mark or a ground out and polished mark.    Much less commonly you might see a raspberry prunt covering the scar, apparently.   However, your piece has a star, which appears to be very unusual.    Whether this might indicate continental or States origin, I haven't a clue, but seems very uncommon for standard Cranberry from the U.K. Anyone else care to comment on that point. :) 
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 28, 2010, 09:14:00 PM
Anne  -  your assistance please :huh:  Why has that odd word reappeared  -  I know I didn't type it - think I had said something like 'coarse'.  thanks Paul s.
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 28, 2010, 09:15:02 PM
o my gawd  -  it's happened again.   What am I doing wrong please. :cry:
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 29, 2010, 07:46:48 AM
having missed a night's sleep over this mystery, I now know what is happening.   I can't type the word in question, because the error will happen again - but if you reverse the following.........'esraoc' - you have the word that is being misunderstood by the server.   It's amusing to see why, of course (forgive the pun px) - but you can now at least see were the word 'posterior' is coming from ;D.    I shall have to avoid this word in future.
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: glassobsessed on May 29, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
Words that might be 'rude' or swear words are automatically changed by the board's software, I had the same problem with the word p_i_s_s_e_d some time ago.

John
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Paul S. on May 29, 2010, 09:06:01 AM
hello John  -  well I can at least undestand why your word was thrown out ;D  -  but my word............ :huh:
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Anne on May 29, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
:24: Dontchya just love servers that auto-replace!!! :24:

It was the arse in coarse that was causing it to have a hissy fit Paul.... 

I must admit I was pondering what you meant by coposterior machine threading, I thought it was some technical term that was totally new to me! (I wonder how long before it pops up in an eBay description???  >:D >:D >:D) 

I've poked the server with a stick and it now accepts that both arse and coarse are perfectly good words that should be displayed as is and not munged in any way.  :thup: 

Thanks for the giggle, I'm still chuckling about it here!!! :rn:
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: glassobsessed on May 29, 2010, 02:09:11 PM
(I wonder how long before it pops up in an eBay description???  >:D >:D >:D) 

Not long... :24:

John
Title: Re: Cranbury glass dish and saucer?
Post by: Carolyn Preston on May 29, 2010, 09:15:34 PM
In a chatroom that I frequent, regarding genealogy, every time I type social (as in social work), it turns out to be genealogy :-). The only solution is to type it s ocial work.  :chky: :chky:

Carolyn