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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => France => Topic started by: astrid on June 12, 2010, 08:49:01 PM

Title: noughts and crosses vase,- ID = Crystal d'Arques, France
Post by: astrid on June 12, 2010, 08:49:01 PM

While trying to identify this vase, I came across an old topic of 2005 by Ivo where a noughts and crosses vase was described as by Jan Schmid, Libochovice, 1964. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3220.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3220.0.html). Unfortunately the accompanying picture was no longer available in the thread. I tried the Sklo CD of Marcus Newhall, but no Schmid designs of 1964 for that company were in the database. To be sure I looked at those ingredients seperately, but nothing identifyable turned up.

Also, my vase is 22 cm high (and 6 cm diameter at the base, 8 cm diameter at the widest point of the top) which makes it higher than the 17.5 cm of Ivo's vase. It is a very nice quality, though, and it was described at the sale as Czech of unknown design and factory (which proves nothing, I know).

Anyway, I'm not sure this is the same vase. Ivo, could you have a look for me if it looks like yours, or if this is a different one? And if it is a different one, does anyone have more info on it?

Astrid

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: Anne on June 12, 2010, 08:59:24 PM

Not Czech, Astrid, but French, this one. It was identified fairly recently on the board as Crystal D'Arques by Margi, who has a labelled one.

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: astrid on June 12, 2010, 09:16:49 PM

Thanks very much, Anne! It's not the first of my 'maybe czech' buys that turns out to be French. I should try to hunt down some French source books I guess. Apparently they did (or do?) make some nice modernist patterns in good quality glass and crystal...

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: Anne on June 12, 2010, 09:38:25 PM

I was amazed at them being CA to be honest, as they look and feel very much like they should be Czech.

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: astrid on June 13, 2010, 07:41:45 AM

Well, my first one that turned out to be French and also made me think Czech when I bought it, had very small 'France' letters molded at the base, so it was clear when I received it. I also think that to be the work of Cristal D'Arques, though it might be another company. I'll attach a picture for further 'French modernistic looking glass reference'.

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: Ivo on June 13, 2010, 07:49:15 AM

no not the work of another company - it is CA and it was one of their best selling items ever. Also available in red to look like cut-to-clear.

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: astrid on June 13, 2010, 08:03:19 AM

Thanks Ivo! So now I have a mini collection of two modernist Cristal D'Arques. And I was really trying to stick to Czech mostly :). But they don't look out of place between the Czech pieces.

Title: Re: noughts and crosses vase, is this the same as Libochovice, Schmid, 1964?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 13, 2010, 09:06:56 AM

Also found in peach; there's one on here somewhere.