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Title: Is This Australian Crown Crystal? - ID = Bagley
Post by: meegs on June 15, 2010, 09:14:36 AM

Hello Everyone,
I am assuming because of the colour and decoration of this Vase that it is Australian Crown Crystal, I have "googled" a few key words but are yet to find any information on this particular pattern.
Please could I have a little help with ID.
It is 11 1/2 inches long, 3 1/2 inches high and 6 inches at its widest point

Thanks must go to Pinkspoons for his Post on Photography as you can see I have attempted a light tent!)
Meegs

Title: Re: Is This Australian Crown Crystal?
Post by: Mosquito on June 15, 2010, 04:50:16 PM

Hi,
This isn't Crown Crystal, it's actually by Bagley of Knottingley, known as the Gum Leaf planter (for obvious reasons). It's quite a sought after pattern - great find!  :mrgreen:

See here on the Wakefield Museum site: http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2001.123

Steven

Title: Re: Is This Australian Crown Crystal?
Post by: meegs on June 15, 2010, 07:17:04 PM

thank-you Steven,
Currently enjoying a good browse through Wakefield Museum's Bagley glass collection!
Cheers
Meegs

Title: Re: Is This Australian Crown Crystal?
Post by: Cathy B on June 16, 2010, 02:24:00 AM

Meegs, just for future reference, the colour and level of detail are wrong for Crown. It is a great find, well done!

Title: Re: Is This Australian Crown Crystal?
Post by: meegs on June 16, 2010, 03:27:05 AM

Thanks Cathy,

Talking of Crown Crystal I have used your website http://www.ozcrowncrystal.com to identify a bowl we use as Crown Crystals Pears and Cherries so I hope they produced that in amber or it probably isn't crown crystal either!
I also assumed that the Department store Farmers you refer to as having commissioned the 'fruits range' series is our New Zealand one which would be why I have seen a quite a few of these bowls at garage sales and the like over the years. Farmers is celebrating it's centenary this year.
Cheers
Meegs

Title: Re: Is This Australian Crown Crystal?
Post by: Cathy B on June 18, 2010, 01:04:46 PM

I'm not entirely sure of the company history, but the Farmers I'm referring to was an Australian department store. I'd imagine there was some link, but don't know for sure. Farmers haven't existed in Australia for decades, and I think they may have been bought out by Grace Brothers. Yes, Crown certainly did make glass in amber, but it tends to be darker (although it is variable).