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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Anne E.B. on June 17, 2010, 07:31:02 PM

Title: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 17, 2010, 07:31:02 PM

I'm guessing this is a flower trough :huh:  Its a whopping 14" long, 2¼" at its widest and 2¼" high at each end.  No markings unfortunately.  The ridged pattern continues on the base.  I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where it came from and if it is intended to hold flowers or not.
TIA :)

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Mosquito on June 17, 2010, 08:10:33 PM

Definitely to hold flowers and late 19th century in date. On p. 160 of Barbara Morris's Victorian Table Glass and Ornaments (1978) there's a reproduced page from a Silber & Fleming catalogue which shows this (or a very similar item) on a stand composed of glass rods. The catalogue no. is 5029, date is 1889.

Steven

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 18, 2010, 05:22:31 PM

Thank you so much Steven :clap:  Its older than I thought.
Here's a close-up for information.  It hasn't been cleaned yet, hence the strange dots.

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: jsmeasell on June 20, 2010, 04:37:58 PM

My wife and I have one of these as well as an arch that goes over it. The arch has a lozenge design registry mark that I will "decode" (and post the information here). I recall seeing the boat/arch in one of the cases at the V&A, too.

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: jsmeasell on June 20, 2010, 07:47:40 PM

Lozenge decoded: 25 May 1871. Jenny Thompson (p. 107) reproduces the handwritten record, and it appears to be "John Harry Wood, 25 Baker Street, Portman Square" (followed by a squiggle that might be shorthand for "London"?). If so, it's not far from what is now Marble Arch and the Wallace Collection (as well as the legendary apartment of Sherlock Holmes!). Perhaps some Holmes on this board can tell us all about John Harry Wood!  

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 20, 2010, 08:04:07 PM

The ID is NOT Silber and Fleming, they were "manufacturers [gas lamps], importers, warehousemen and agents for every description of household article". Their wholesale catalogue includes Czech and English glass.

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Anne on June 20, 2010, 09:47:18 PM

Quote from: jsmeasell on June 20, 2010, 07:47:40 PM

Lozenge decoded: 25 May 1871. Jenny Thompson (p. 107) reproduces the handwritten record, and it appears to be "John Harry Wood

Looking at p107, the name is John Henry Wood and he was the Wood of Pellatt & Wood

Quote from: http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/mann-p.htm

Pellatt & Co, Apsley
Southwark, London, England (c 1790 - c 1875)
Apsley Pellatt (Senior) bought Falcon Glass House (est 1693).  ...  Went into partnership with John Henry Wood c 1870 (1 design registered 25/5/1871), company becoming Pellatt & Wood (1 design registered 28/3/1874)

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 21, 2010, 07:37:26 PM

Many thanks folks ;)

Title: Re: 14" long pressed glass boat shape trough
Post by: Anne E.B. on July 24, 2010, 05:48:46 PM

Could this be my boat, shown here in the Meisenthal 1907 catalogue numbered 2502? http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Meisenthal-1907.124+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMjQmcHJvZHVjdElEPTU1NjgmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTI0JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html

I think I also have 2504, but unlike the boat which is patterned all over with ridges, it has a hobnail base.