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Title: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Leni on June 22, 2010, 11:24:19 AM

I wonder if anyone knows the maker of this paperweight?  I thought at first it was Mdina, because of the use of silver chloride salts (it was sold as Mdina!) but friends who are Mdina experts think no.  It has a concave polished our pontil mark, almost like a Whitefriars paperweight.  WMF has been suggested, and I found some pictures of a WMF bowl using similar silver chloride effects:

[Mod: Very long link removed. Please see below for a shortened link.]

What's the consensus of opinion?  

Thanks  :)

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Leni on June 22, 2010, 11:26:39 AM

Eeeek!  :o Sorry about the huge link!   :-[  Could someone cleverer than me deal with it please?  ::)

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: chriscooper on June 22, 2010, 07:41:32 PM

Quote from: Leni on June 22, 2010, 11:26:39 AM

Eeeek!  :o Sorry about the huge link!   :-[  Could someone cleverer than me deal with it please?  ::)

James would be proud of that one Leni Lol
Chris

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Leni on June 23, 2010, 09:47:58 AM

OK, OK! I 'did a James'  ::) :pb:  I've got the short link now, but I can't edit the first one any more!  :spls: 

http://www.trocadero.com/nuages/items/965757/en1.html 

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Leni on July 12, 2010, 08:54:39 AM

Am I allowed to 'bump' this yet?  Oh look, I just did!   ;)

If it isn't either Mdina or WMF, does anyone have any ideas about whose it might be? 

Thank you.

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 24, 2010, 11:51:37 AM

 :rah:
Credit must go to Robbo for the sleuthing, he's found the colour chart for Phoenician Glass, and it looks to me that this is your answer, Leni.
It could be Astra or Fade-away Blue, but your weight does not fade away..... I think the different colours that appear among the yellow/ochre/reddy bits might be because of different concentrations of silver salts, to me at any rate, it's basically the same pattern -  based on the Michael Harris' Mdina "Crizzle" technique - which has various different names depending on who has used it - in WMF, it's in their Ikora range, in Monart, it's Cloissonne, and I just found out last week from an american glassmaker I know on an ME support forum, it has an official name of "primavera". I don't actually know his full name - he's just Rob.

However, I think only Harris "dyansty" glass (and a very few spectacular WMF pieces) introduce silver chloride into the cracks.

link to colour chart:

http://www.phoenicianglass.com/downloads/phoenician_colours.jpg

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 24, 2010, 06:41:30 PM

Perhaps Astra is more likely than Fade away  :)

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Derek on July 24, 2010, 10:25:45 PM

Hi Leni

Mdina factory and Phoenician factory are next door to one another on Malta !

Best regards

Derek

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: Leni on July 25, 2010, 08:17:12 AM

Thank you, Sue, and especially thank you Robbo - and Christine and Derek  :) for the sleuthing and the helpful comments  :hiclp:

Title: Re: Not Mdina - WMF?
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 25, 2010, 11:24:02 AM

Phoenician Glass was founded by Leonard Sullivan and is one of the glasshouses which "arose" from Mdina, the early work and some, like this, still based on Michael Harris' original designs.

Later on, Leonard Sullivan was one of the folk in partnership with Michael Harris, who started up Gozo Glass.
It has more in common with Mdina than just being neighbours. :thup: