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Title: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: cubby01 on June 28, 2010, 05:41:11 PM
Not sure what to make of this.  From a box lot of a collectors estate.  Is it junk or not?  Anyone know the maker?

Rough pontil scar but not sharp, it's been softened or polished a bit.  7" tall and very bulky.

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1423/img8782.jpg)
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1494/img8784z.jpg)


Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: cubby01 on July 26, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
Bump.  I've looked at a lot of american glass trying to find this.  I thought maybe one of the Blenko like companies.  Seems I've seen something similar a long long time ago.  I kinda thought Mexico but I don't know.  I've been calling it a 'goblet', any better term?   Anyone want to suggest a continent?  Looks 70s to me but....
Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: antiquerose123 on July 27, 2010, 02:48:41 AM
Hi Cubby01 - I have No idea, but I thought I would pass this on of the bottom marks of Blenko that was posted before for me.  It is a Great site and lots of info their -- plus their catalogs.  http://www.blenkoarchive.org/blenko_characteristics.htm   

I am not sure of your goblet either -- but IMHO looks 70'ish  to me to -- as been there, and done that.    ;D
Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 27, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
I have my doubts about the bowl, but the stem looks a wee bit like this early one I have by Annette Meech.
Although the colour in the pics looks yellowy, it's actually mostly blue - the yellowy colour comes from the silver salts and irridesence. It is decidedly wonky. Given it's earliness and wonkiness I would assume she was still refining her technique......
But I take it you're in the states, Cubby... maybe just ignore me. :pb:


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/Annettegoblet1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/AnnetteGoblet2.jpg


Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: cubby01 on July 27, 2010, 08:28:32 PM
Hi chopin-liszt,
Wonky LOL, Yes, but cool.  Thanks for bringing up Annette Meech.  I took a little jaunt and looked over some web pages with her work.   The similarity with the 3 ball stem is interesting.  Maybe there is some common influence somewhere.   

It's true I'm in the states but glass moves around as we know.   Complicating it all is the number of college art departments with furnaces and independent glass artisans that produce in small quantities and one-off's ('bespoke'? on your side of the pond  ;)) and such - Makes it rough on us sometimes.  Usually those one-off items get signed, mines not.  The fact that this one is well done with the controlled bubbles and *not signed* has me thinking it's a production piece and there have to be more just like it out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: snesbit on July 27, 2010, 10:57:57 PM
The goblet is A.F. Bischoff Glass Co. from Culloden, West Virginia in the US. 

This is their shape No. 34 1/2, it appears pictured in the catalog reprint in Pina's "Crackle Glass in color Depression to '70's". She reprints the entire catalog although only some pieces were done in crackle.

Contemporaries of Blenko, circa early 1960's.
Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: cubby01 on July 27, 2010, 11:28:05 PM
Many thanks snesbit!!!    :thup:
I knew it wasn't Blenko (or thought I knew) because I'd gone through many of their catalogs.  And I don't think Blenko did the bubble thing.   Once off Blenko I thought it was Bischoff and knew they did bubbles but I couldn't find an example online.  Not finding it I moved on to the other makers in that part of the country without luck.  I've got several pieces of Bischoff including some crackle glass.  Guess I need to hunt down a copy of that book, eh  :)

Have a great day!
Title: Re: Heavy blue goblet - Junk or not?
Post by: snesbit on July 27, 2010, 11:40:09 PM
"The Museum of American Glass in West Virginia" has a nice selection of catalog reprints available for sale, and I think they also market through ebay. 

If you're interested in Bischoff I'd probably buy their "13. Bischoff Glass 1920s-1960s: 20 pages of catalog pages from several Bischoff catalogs, some in color, showing many of the modern types of glass produced by this WV company. $14.00 ($10.00 member) plus $3.50 postage."  Probably a better resource than Pina.