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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Tigerchips on December 05, 2005, 12:44:16 AM
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The metal glass holders are stamped "Made In England". The glasses are hand blown and thin at the rim and thicker at the base. I don't know what kind of metal it is but I would guess that it's silver plated.
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/normal_Picture%20072.jpg)
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/normal_Picture%20058.jpg)
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/normal_Picture%20078.jpg)
Any comments welcome, thanks. :)
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I must admit it does look kind of cheap. Very thin metal. Items stamped with "Made In England" seem to be fairly common. I had a suger caster with the same mark.
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If it's silver-plated it will be hallmarked 'EPNS', 'EPBM' or 'EPWM' somewhere. :)
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Not pewter, is it? :shock: :?
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I thought it looked pewtery too... :)
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I don't think it's pewter, It's just dirty and goes shiny when cleaned.
I don't know if I should clean it or not because I might devalue it. That's why it's still dirty and it's not because I'm too lazy to clean it. :wink:
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You can have silver-plated pewter, though - it's called EPBM (Electro-Plated Britannia Metal).
I'm not sure if there are laws which state that all silver-plate must be hallmarked, like with regular silver...?
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I don't think it's pewter, It's just dirty and goes shiny when cleaned.
But pewter goes shiny when it's cleaned! :shock:
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Yes, you're right Leni, silly me. :oops:
Pewter doesn't tarnish. I can see a purple tarnish inside the holders.
It might be EPBM but does it rust?
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I don't think so, but I don't know! T'is a quandry. :?
It's probably an alloy, or chromed/plated steel or some-such.
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It also sticks to a magnet though I haven't got any pewter to see if a magnet sticks to that. :)
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When I first saw this, I thought it was EPNS that had been loved (read 'cleaned') too much, so you were looking mainly at the base metal.
Would the base metal become shiny when polished? :? :?:
Edit: Suddenly thought this would have suited chrome plated more than EPNS??
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Hurray for Google...
Pewter doesn't rust, so it's pretty safe to say that it's not that. Nor does nickel in EPNS.
Chromed or (non-silver) plated steel doesn't seem to have red rust - I have a late Victorian silver-handled stationary set that I had a quick rummage for, and the steel instrument parts of the set have a black oxide instead, and with only a slight texture. Nor does the steel shine when polished (although the remaining plating does).
So it would seem that the base metal is another iron-based alloy (possibly chromium).
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I've tried to clean it up but to no effect. it's definetly not silver plated because I used bleach and that would have turned it black.
I have one of them Kosy Kraft style teapots and the metal is just like that. The metal on the teapot is marked: Celtic, "Quality" plate.
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Tigerchips, try Autosol - I used it to clean all my metalware (not just chrome) - test it on a bit out of sight first of course! Autosol is available from most supermarkets and car accessories' shops. :)
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Great I'll try that, thanks. :D
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Brittania metal is a tin alloy but it is not pewter.
Have you tried a magnet, which will eliminate ferric metals?
Aluminium was also very popular from late 19th to 1920's following the casting of Eros. It can suffer some weird tarnishing because a lot was not very pure.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPBM
A magnet sticks to it like super glue.