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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => New Zealand & Australia Glass => Topic started by: Alfies Dad on July 28, 2010, 03:38:35 PM
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Hi, Thanks to Ahremck / Ross for putting a name to the signature on this interesting vase, i have since googled Chris Pantano and found pieces in (gallery beneath) which are Quite expensive, prices range from $1000 / $5000 Australian dollars for other pieces made by him, my vase is Dreamtime but can't find any like this, question is would this vase be worth anything like mentioned above or am i just having a dreamtime myself, I understand that something is only worth what two people are prepared to pay for an item, Im just a novice here and would appreciate your views on this one.
Thanks Robert.
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He's an Australian/world glass bigwig, so yes, though those are gallery prices.
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Thanks Christine, I guess i got a real bargain then from that charity shop several years ago, they obviously didn't know what they were selling and i definatly did not know what this was either, i think its only fair now that i return to the shop and give them a very big donation. Thanks again Robert.
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Hey Robert :) You bought it because you liked it, and that's beautiful. It lovely when things work out like this, I hope you've enjoyed owning it, I hope you do well if you sell. :) :) :)
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Chris Pantano used to have a lovely studio at Montville, Queensland, Australia. About a year ago we were there and it no longer exists. Chris may have ceased blowing. In my opinion his work is brilliant because he originated several distinct series of pieces. Dreamtime (Aboriginal motifs), Reef (based on the Barrier Reef), Rainforest, Desert, to name some I saw and could not afford to buy at the time. Several of the influential artists from that area Lucas Salton, Richard Lamprecht(Ricardo Glass), Tina Cooper, and Mark Kalifa also ask and get prices in the $2000 range. Most of them have copied Chris - often almost slavishly. I would suggest that it might well cost what you have researched - especially if it is large - I have forgotten the size.
Ross
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:hi: Thanks again Ross, Unfortunately the vase is not of any great size approximately 10 cm high, but is free from any damage and scratches. the vase is very nice Max and its been a pleasure to own and i like it a lot but putting this into perspective i am a single dad working a part-time job and now :o :) i know this, i will after sell the vase but not sure if Ebay is the place or not, I would appreciate any advice from anyone? :sun:
Robert.
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For such a high value item you might want to consider entering it into a specialist sale with one of the auction houses that handles such items. It might be worth sending some emails with photos to several and ask if they would be interested in selling it. I'm sure other members will be able to advise you as to who to approach depending on where you are (UK, USA, etc...) Good luck with it, I hope it does well for you. :)
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Thanks Anne, I live in Yorkshire, UK.
Regards
Robert.
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The only auction house I know in Yorkshire is Tennants at Leyburn, who I've always found very helpful with enquiries. Some of their sales are live internet auctions too (not eBay) but they take bids online as well as at the sale room etc... that's a useful option with a piece with international appeal. http://www.tennants.co.uk/ There are salerooms elsewhere though, so wait for other suggestions before you decide. ;)
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Hi folks :hi:
Nice piece there OP. I found this forum doing a search to seek out Chris as well as look for more of his works to purchase for my collection.
I have 6 pieces of his work of differing series. I need to take new photo's of what I have here though.... and upload to a photobucket account.
Anyone know what's happened to Chris? His web site seems to have been closed. I really do hope all is well for him.... not all that easy being an artist sometimes.
Hmmmmmmm .... yes, nice piece from a later series than anything I have here. Will it be sold on, OP?
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:hi: Thanks again Ross, Unfortunately the vase is not of any great size approximately 10 cm high, but is free from any damage and scratches. the vase is very nice Max and its been a pleasure to own and i like it a lot but putting this into perspective i am a single dad working a part-time job and now :o :) i know this, i will after sell the vase but not sure if Ebay is the place or not, I would appreciate any advice from anyone? :sun:
Robert.
I wouldn't have anything to do with eBay, frankly.
The most of the high end items you see listed is only there to advertise the sellers 'shop'.
Secondly, many of us in the numismatic field realise they don't do enough to rope in forgeries. As the biggest International venue for the trade of such collectables and highest turnover on a daily basis, they have a moral & ethical duty to do more to address this serious issue. Forget the rhetoric about 'Trust & Safety' ... it takes second place to profit.
I've had numerous dealings with eBay and a perfect trading record there, until their inaction on a number of matters had me close all accounts I had there.
My confidence level with eBay: 0/10 now.... ZERO
Next is how far people trust auction houses even if they are trading in a 'on floor' + 'internet' bidders. Me? I'm sure I've been 'had' in the past with vendor bidders. The practice is widespread and my confidence level is low unless I'm present at an auction to assess the risk. Upcoming auctions are not always well publicised so collectors like myself usually find it's way too late. It's very rare to find a good description of lots or even a photo of an item.
My confidence level with online bidding like this: 0-5/10 depending upon response to my enquiries. [so thats zero - 50% maximum bid on what I think it's worth]
Last piece I purchased was from doing a google search, finding a gallery selling an early perfume bottle of the 'Fire Opal' series. It's not as impressive as any of my other Pantano pieces. Thats small at around 100mm diameter.... excluding the stopper. I contacted the vendor directly and her replies were honest and direct... so I paid full asking price of AU$150. I'm not into haggling. Add another AU$30 for highly excessive postal protection of which I specified. I DO NOT trust Australia Post shipping anything fragile from the East Coast of Aus to the West Coast by a primitive road/rail/road system that has cost me big time through breakage in the past.
My confidence level dealing directly with a vendor [done so many times with eBay sellers offsite with no mutual problems at all.] : 5-9/10 No haggling, full asking price paid. NO skimping on protective packaging.
Anyhow, if you do decide to on sell please advise asking price.
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OK, not fantastic quality images [taken for a shipping manifest].
Last piece purchased this year is not included unfortunately
Is this where I post em for this forums data base?
Anyhow............
Wave: 105mm dia. x 95mm high http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00875.jpg (http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00875.jpg)
Rain Forest: 105mm dia. x 190 high http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00859.jpg (http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00859.jpg)
Reef: 120 dia. x 235mm high http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00908.jpg
(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00908.jpg)
Desert? Outback? : [can't recall atm] 210mm dia x 160 high http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00879-1.jpg (http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00879-1.jpg)
Hmmmmm ... sorry, could have done better with that shot! LOL
True Blue: 160 dia. x 200mm high http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00900.jpg (http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/reproducer/DSC00900.jpg)
I think this is an artist proof of sorts because all other examples I've seen have an orange colour rim.
This has matt acid etch finish. All other pieces are of cased construction.
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Nice bits MIsha. I have 6 paperweights and a lovely Fire Opal perfume of Chris's work.
Would love to compare notes sometime - send me an email if you want to.
Ross
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:hi: Thanks, will do sometime.
Gets rather distracting and unpredictable here sometimes, but will do that soon.
I'm headed Melbourne way within the next 6months to visit my lady friend too.... not keen on visiting Sydney, grew up there and escaped a crappy neighbourhood.
I had another look at those images. Report card should say "Could do better". That 'Wave' is an incredibly dynamic piece to behold.
Lots of diachronic in there. Photo's just can't capture the full beauty. Maybe a short video in full sun can when I get the time.
Priority is to photograph a green Victorian piece I would like to know more about... now I've found people that know their glass.
Right, off to do that NOW!