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Title: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: SPACEY on August 04, 2010, 09:54:55 AM
This is 23cm tall, and all I know is it has a white inner layer, mid layer of marbled colour and silver foil— I think (very 3D). THe outer layer is Clear. The shape is beautiful........ Please help :hiclp: thanks!
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: SPACEY on August 04, 2010, 09:56:02 AM
here is another pic :hiclp:
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 04, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Hmmm, your "silver foil" looks like mica flakes. Monart used these - it was Woolworth's Christmas glitter. However, I do not think this vase is Monart at all.
I'm only mentioning it, because there was a Czech company, as yet un-named, or identified, which used similar techniques to Monart - a "combing" effect in coloured enamels and with these mica chips as inclusions. This may be a lead in pinning down a potential maker......
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: SPACEY on August 04, 2010, 10:03:03 PM
Thanks Sue, I now know them as 'Mica flakes', they are quite large not really fine :) which is a help. I have tried to find a similar vase and on google and the only close match I can find is Chalcedony Art Glass Nouveau Era Vase below (am I allowed to post a link?)

http://retroartglass.com/gallery/ckj.2,66/Chalcedony_Art_Glass_Nouveau_Era_Vase.html
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 05, 2010, 06:12:34 AM
I would guess your vase could be Bohemian or even English, very late 19th century early 20th century. Larger pictures would help a little. Making the longest dimension about 700 pixels when you resize a high resolution picture usually gives good results.
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: SPACEY on August 05, 2010, 08:28:31 AM
Thanks Christine, I have problems trying to get the images up as they are too big and when I resize they drop all detail.... here's another try, Thanks, amanda
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: SPACEY on August 05, 2010, 08:31:07 AM
Here is a larger one of the base, thanks!, A
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 05, 2010, 09:32:54 AM
Much better  ;D You could have attached both to the same reply as it's 125 KB per picture, four pictures per post.
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 05, 2010, 10:10:11 AM
The colours on my monitor are all weird and washed out, but the vase in the link you give Spacey, does not look nearly as elegant as yours, and it's NOT what I would call "Chalcedony" either - neither is yours.
Do you know of any English (or American for that matter) companies who used mica flake inclusions, Christine?
The only maker I know of at all, other than Monart, who used them, is the unknown Bohemian one.
I would describe the decor on this flask as spattered over a white background, with mica flake inclusions.
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 05, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
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Do you know of any English (or American for that matter) companies who used mica flake inclusions, Christine?

No, but it's not uncommon, as a board search reveals - though most are not ID'd. Salviati did, but this isn't Venetian.
Title: Re: OLD 3 layered Vase Help with ID Please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 05, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
 :thup:

Ok, well and truly chastised here!  :-*
Too many to read, though some of the few I did look at may have been doubtful as to it being mica, and it's going off into complicated and big areas I try to avoid - like Italian!

I'm still leaning towards Bohemian for this piece though.