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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: vidrioguapo on August 13, 2010, 03:15:16 PM
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Bought this this morning, sorry photo not great. But I think it is a Frantisek Zemek piece. Would appreciate any other info - pattern number? date of production?
I think the glassworks may have been Mstisov, and the vase part of the Rhapsody range? 7 .5 inches tall, flat polished base. TIA
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/emmismith/Czech/FrantisekZemek.jpg)
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Can you post a picture from one or more different angles? I would like to see the coloured bits more clearly and seperate from each other to see the shapes and how many different colours that used.
Astrid
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Well I am finding this nigh on impossible to photograph........I have tried putting white fabric inside to separate the colours, but that doesn't work either.
It has the circle decoration on one side in shades of Amber and the other side in shades of Blue, here are a couple of other photos but I am not sure they are good enough to help you
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/emmismith/Czech/F-1.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/emmismith/Czech/FZemek2.jpg)
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It does do some lovely optical effects - presumably that's what is causing the photographic problems!
Are the circles of colour in the body, or applied to the outside, or the inside? Are they lumpy?
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Now that's a good question, difficult to answer. It looks as if they are within the body, BUT around the edge of the coloured circles is a slight ridge/indentation. Cannot get my fingers in to have a "feel", but there appears to be a "bridge" of glass inside between the two sides, a bridge which is suspended as it appears from the underside of base not to be solid down to the inside base of vase.????? :huh:
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:huh: 8) :huh:
Clear as mud, Emmi! (just joking) I take it the bridgy bit is why you can't shove a white cloth in to separate the colours. Now you've mentioned it, I can see a bit of it coming forward from the back side (2 words, I'm making that clear to prevent disintegration of this thread) on one of your pics. I'll have a dig around and see if I can find a pic of something in just one colour with a similar thing in it, to help your illustration.
(just don't hold your breath - it might be tomorrow).
Is the bridge bit in the two colours?
I think your vase is gorgeous. :thup: It's got to be something good!
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I am pretty sure it is a Czech vase but certainly not Zemek. I cannot recall the factory. Doubtless within a few days Jindrich or others will be able to confirm the factory! A nice looking piece though,
Robert (bOBA)
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I believe that the Rhapsody pieces have 4 colour straps or prunts separately attached to the glass in blue, green, amber and red. All the examples of Rhapsody I know show those 4 separate straps or prunts in those 4 colours together.
Jindrich has a lot of different Rhapsody items on his Picasa site: http://picasaweb.google.nl/Jindra8526/FrantisekZemekRhapsody#
Given that the colour areas on your vase are blue and amber only, are much larger than the straps or prunts I've seen on Rhapsody and the prunts or straps on Rhapsody are very clearly sticking out of the glass, I really don't think your vase is of that series.
Beyond that, I really can't say whether it could be Mstisov or Zemek in some other design range - perhaps Jindrich can be of assistance here.
Astrid
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Rhapsody bits usually have four colours on a clear body either applied as prunts or trails. This is a good example, you can see that the prunts stick out (http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/CzechGlass#5432668485944319762) from the body (keep it clean ;D). There are a few more Rhapsody vases in that album - click "View All".
I don't know if any of the range was made with two (or three) colours but your coloured bits don't look like they are on the outside of the vase so I would keep looking for now.
Three of you have just stolen my thunder but I'll post this anyway....
John
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:thud: Seems I will have to be patient then, just when I thought I'd bought something I knew about even with my scant Czech knowledge. But thanks for all your input. If there is no definite result, I will take it to the Cambridge Glass fair in September and if any of you are there, perhaps we can have a "hands on" chat about it. :thup:
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John...... you show us a pee-pot with nipples, and you say to keep it clean? :24:
surely you mean sanitary?
(sorry :-[ :wsh: )
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Wonder if this vase may come from the same designer as this, there are some similarities - but perhaps I am clutching at straws?
http://picasaweb.google.cz/103696407389334280399/CeskoslovenskeSklo#5450646124196322642
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Very beautiful vase Emmi but..... :ooh:
This one in Dusan's Cz album looks like a candidate: http://picasaweb.google.de/exat53/CzGlas#5159824904675112466
No factory or designer yet though. :'(
John
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Ah ha!!! Thanks John, now why did I miss that when looking?!****
Certainly looks from the same stable as mine...........one step closer at least knowing this vase is definitely from Czechoslovakia for sure. :thup:
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I now think the coloured spot decoration on this Czech has been "applied" as I found I have a Whitefriars applied spot vase from 1969, and the outside of both vases around the colour feels rather similar, having a slight sort of "score" mark around the edge of the coloured spot. On the WF vase I have, I can also feel the inside which is not smooth as the rest of the glass, of course because of the small neck of the Czech vase I can't get in to see if it is similar.
This is the W/F range I am talking about
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=277
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I don't think we need that extra image I was going to put in with a bridgey bit, and I think John's found it in Dusan's album too :thup: - shame a designer/maker has not been tracked down yet.
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This piece is from recent production of Chribska - Rubin Glass few years old. Nothing to do with Zemek.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/CHRIBSkA1999?authkey=Gv1sRgCKjbrouFiseK2gE#5435069502959094562
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Thanks for that John.........so Chribska 1999 it is.
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Not only 1999, it can be also 2005 :-)
Yes, Chribska, designer unknown for the moment - but I am working on it, I got some excellent contacts in Novy Bor that could help attribute designers in this catalogue in near future.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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Just checking here as I was looking for something else and came across a vase shorter. squatter but certainly the same range as Emmi's. I looked through the Chribska catalogue and can't find the vases page this seems to pertain to ::) can someone point me in the right direction of where the cat pic is please? The vase I've found is also unsigned but attributed to Adam Jablonski (although I thought all of his work was signed anyway).
Thank you :sun:
m