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Title: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: wildrose on August 16, 2010, 02:00:57 PM
Figured I would start with British... I have been told this piece of glass is likely to be European probably before 1900.  Been looking at pictures websites etc and not having any luck identifying it. any help?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: KevinH on August 16, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
Wildrose, welcome to the GMB.

This topic has been moved from the "British" forum to get a wider audience. Unless we know that something is almost definitely of a country for which there is a separate GMB forum, then the general Glass forum is the place to start.

Also, please note that in glass terms (and probably other things as well), "British" is still regarded as different from "European".

But is there any reason why this item could not be American? The very flared nature of the rim, and the rim edging are seen in some earlier American work.
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: wildrose on August 16, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Thanks Kev.

I really don't know the origin, was suggested on another board this is probably not an American shape. WDIK?
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: dinklepip on August 16, 2010, 11:02:42 PM
American Coin Dot????????
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: KevinH on August 16, 2010, 11:46:05 PM
As it happens I have something similar from my collection of 15+ years ago. Although I do not know where it was made, it clearly shows features of Victorian style. Perhaps the pics below could help narrow down what these may, or may not, be ... assuming that they are indeed from the same maker.

It is 15cm (5 7/8 inch) high and approx 11.5cm (4 1/2 inch) wide. The feet are integral with the acanthus leaf wrapped around the body and the feet are ground on the underside.

The fact that the feet are applied separately might suggest a "non-Bohemian" make, but the sliced top of the rim could suggest it is "Bohemian". But then, are those old guidelines reliable?

Side view (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13310)
Base view (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13309)
Rim view (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13308)
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 17, 2010, 06:51:10 AM
That blue is an unusual shade; straight cobalt blue. Most of the Victorian pieces I have/have had of this sort of thing have blue glass that's a shade or two nearer teal, i.e., the faintest hint of green.

I wouldn't rule out the US personally; though Bohemia and England are contenders.
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: antiquerose123 on August 17, 2010, 07:48:37 AM
Hi -- Just a guess here -- BUT might it be similar to this one here (Fenton Coin Dot).  Yours looks a bit shorter than this one -- but this might give a lead as where to start looking. AND this is only a Guess, IMHO.......

http://atlantaantiquegallery.com/i-141992-fenton-coin-dot-cranberry-ruffled-vase.html

 :-\
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 17, 2010, 08:23:11 AM
No, those other Rose's dots are raised on the outside and therefore opalescent. Those are not and neither is Fenton coin dot.
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: jsmeasell on August 18, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
It's not Fenton. Incidentally, what we call "coin dot" has the circular areas transparent and the surrounding areas opalescent. This piece is "coin spot" (circular areas are opalescent and surrounding areas are transparent). The spot moulds used for these treatments are physical opposites from one another.
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: wildrose on August 18, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Oh I know it's not Fenton.

Thanks for all the replies so far.
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: Carolyn Preston on August 18, 2010, 11:29:56 PM
Wildrose, what is your location. A) it gives us a bit of a hint and b) the wildrose is my province's "flower" so I'm wondering if you are from hereabouts.  :hi:

Carolyn
Title: Re: Antique Opalescent Glass Bowl - pre 1900
Post by: wildrose on August 19, 2010, 01:03:00 AM
I am in San Diego, California