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Title: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Ohio on August 18, 2010, 02:48:05 AM
I know this is one of those thats cannot be attributed, but my question is what is it? The lady (in her 70's) I bought it from said her grandmother use to keep her rings in it so is it a jewelery case? 7" high with a 3 1/2" diameter. Top lifts off, glass is fairly heavy at 1/8" thick, no markings on the silver. Thanks, Ken 
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: antiquerose123 on August 18, 2010, 03:39:49 AM
Hi there -
IMHO I would say Yes, that is what it is.  A Jewelry Box, or also know as a Jewelry Casket.  Here is a link that *just gives you an idea* as I have not yet found one *exactly* like yours yet, or really close.  So here are just some examples and you will note that one is *Egg-shaped*

http://www.atozantique.com/store/scripts/prodList.asp?CatID=4&curPage=5&sortField=sortorder

 :)
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Ohio on August 18, 2010, 05:20:51 AM
Thanks Rose I appreciate it. Went to eBay & looked at what was there, but most seemed to be of a more recent vintage, but the porcelain egg shaped one is at least close.  Ken
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: antiquerose123 on August 18, 2010, 06:32:46 AM
Hi -- IMHO, it appears that your glass casket (box, or case) has an enameled design on the top -- at least that is what looks like to me.

See first pic here:  http://www.atoncer.com/art-glass/mount-washington.htm

Wave Crest did a dotted enameling on their (milky) glass wares, and you can see some posts (links) here if you use the Search box here.  Just to see them, and the dotted enameling done on items.  I do not think that Wave Crest did an glass egg though, but at least the enameling is a similar idea to what it *looks* like on your item here...........IMHO.

Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Anne on August 18, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
I agree with Rose re jewellery casket. I have a more recent oval one (without stand) somewhere which was made in Italy (label unreadable with wear) which my Mother brought me back when she visited Venice in the 1980s.
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 18, 2010, 04:59:04 PM
 :hi:
If it's real silver, it should be marked....
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Ohio on August 18, 2010, 11:59:10 PM
It is "real silverplate" so evidently your definition of real means EPNS, sterling, whatever.  In the US) if the parts were subcontracted out by a glass manufacturer to a plate operation it would not in all probability be marked. We have God only knows how many hundreds examples of this in US glass with silver dating back a century. Ken
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 19, 2010, 06:21:30 AM
(EPNS contains NO silver BTW)
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 19, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
 :huh:

Sorry, I thought you said there were no marks.
I was under the impression that all silver is/should be marked, also that EPNS is marked as such too.
Ignore me if you like - I know very little about silver or epns, or other metals, I don't have much interest in them. :)
It's quite possible things are different in the states.
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Ohio on August 19, 2010, 09:40:04 PM
Yes Christine I know EPNS is copper, nickel & zinc & technically should not have used the term I suppose.   
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Ohio on August 19, 2010, 09:44:14 PM
Sorry Sue, my fault, I didn't mean to be so gruff. Its just over here some of the old 19th to early 20th century decorative use plate isn't marked...its just old plate.  Ken
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 20, 2010, 06:22:29 AM
You didn't actually say it was plate, you just said silver and sometimes things do have sterling fittings. My EPNS comment wasn't aimed particularly at you, just trying to insidiously spread facts.   ;D  :kissy:
Title: Re: Egg Shaped Piece in Silver Holder
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 20, 2010, 09:05:07 AM
 :-*
All gruffiness, past, present, future or imaginary, forgiven Ken, thanks.

As to the insidious spread of info, I can add that "Sheffield Plate" is another matter entirely - it's made by rolling silver metal onto copper metal mechanically before working it into the final form. It has a very high silver content and can be more valuable than pure silver.