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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: heartofsklo on August 29, 2010, 11:39:53 PM
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Quite a heavy piece of amethyst coloured glass, I know I should recognise the shape but it illudes me :cry:
Measures almost 20cm.
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It looks very similar to a vase Jindrich has in his "Questions - Solved Issues" section - http://www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo/8-ZEPTEJTE-SE-QUESTIONS/15-Vyresene-solved-issues/0/0/0/discussion-all/136#bott136
Rosice 5123/200 from 1969, designer unknown for the time being. But I strongly suggest you wait for confirmation from someone more knowledgable than 'moi' :-\.
Anik
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Hi,
it's a Gent vase, made by Lausitzer Glaswerke, see Pamela's site Glas-Musterbuch:
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Lausitzer-Glas-1969.91+B6YmFja1BJRD05MSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mzg4OCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD05MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
Cheers,
Dirk
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Aw Dirk, you're such a show-off :ac1:
But you're obviously right. (One question, though... is the person who posted this vase (see link) as confused as I am? Is it also a "gent" vase? http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756)
You live and learn :)
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What is a "Gent" Vase? :tof:
I know glass comes in different shapes, styles, and colors -- now different Sexes? Oh, I will never learn all of this... :thud:
:24: No wonder my China Cabinet *seems* to be producing more glass every time I look in it -- now I know why...
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Hi,
it´s a ´Gent´ vase, made by Lausitzer Glaswerke, see Pamela´s site Glas-Musterbuch:
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Lausitzer-Glas-1969.91+B6YmFja1BJRD05MSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mzg4OCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD05MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
Cheers,
Dirk
Thank you Dirk, much appreciated.
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Umm, just under the vase in question, in the link posted by Anik,
http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756
there's an amber tumbler, said to be by Rosice, (no designer) but it looks awfully like Inwald's Jacobean.
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Now I am lost, possibly there are some differences, in Marcus database is only drwaing of Rosice 5123, same height 200 mm...
Glass attributiongis sometimes very exciting :-)
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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I think you´ve made an important point, Jindrich. I´ve also found it hard sometimes to recognise the pieces in flesh from the
line drawings in the SU catalogues.
A pointer concerning this vase is the much less carefully ground base - not czech high quality. ;)
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What a relief... now I don't feel so silly giving a wrong attribution :).
It's interesting that both the Rosice and Lausitzer Glaswerke vase were produced in 1969. I wonder, if they are indeed different vases, what they look like side by side, and base by base.
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They come in blue as well, I thought this was Rosice when I first bought it but the base is definitely different and l had already read the Lausitzer attribution elsewhere. Still it's a lovely colour and it fits in well. :)
Although mine is 150mm. Because I like to be different.
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Dirk is right, the amethyst one at the top is a Lausitzer Glaswerke, "Gent" vase, not Rosice, SU.
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Umm, just under the vase in question, in the link posted by Anik,
http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756
there's an amber tumbler, said to be by Rosice, (no designer) but it looks awfully like Inwald's Jacobean.
It is Inwald "Jacobean" Sue, latterly known as Rudolfova Hut'. The Rosice 244 pattern has narrow fillets in between each row of panels, unlike "Jacobean" which just has the panels.
The Rosice 244 is shown below... (image courtesy of Marcus Newhall)
My Jacobean jug shows the pattern difference quite clearly...
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Back to Gent vs. 5123
1. Rosice 5123 or Lausitzer Gent (http://sklo-union-glass.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=345&category_id=5&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1) 200 size
2. Lausitzer Gent (http://sklo-union-glass.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=346&category_id=5&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1) 150 size
Naturally not the same size, limiting conclusions and pity above examples do not show bases. Any chance tese can be added.
My thoughts...
Freelance designer who sold the design to both factories with only a country exclusive clause....
Licensed design... but in the same year... no, don't buy that.
Flagrant copying, don't buy that either...
Is the base typical of Lausitzer? If not it could well be a Czech designer, which ones were freelancing in 1969 period?
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What is a "Gent" Vase? :tof:
named after the thirdlargest city in Belgium :thud: