Glass Message Board

Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: cubby01 on September 03, 2010, 04:28:04 PM

Title: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: cubby01 on September 03, 2010, 04:28:04 PM

Hi all,  I've got this crystal ashtray and was hoping someone could id the company by the signature on the base.   Appears there was a paper label but only a small patch of old label glue and rubbed paper remained when I got it.  There is very little wear so I have no indication as to how old it is. 

TIA, -Buck

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Margi on September 03, 2010, 04:56:24 PM

Val st Lambert

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Margi on September 03, 2010, 04:57:53 PM

This is only a guess based on my hubbys vast glass ashtray collection - I think he is now upto 200 or so.  Incidentally if anyone knows of an easy cataloging system could you please let me know.

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Greg. on September 03, 2010, 05:04:14 PM

Margi are some Val St Lambert pieces signed just 'Val'..? I've seen a few signed in the full script before....?

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Anne on September 03, 2010, 05:13:07 PM

I thought the mark looked more like VSL than VAL?

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: cubby01 on September 03, 2010, 05:20:17 PM

Anne, Sorry I got confused...you thought what looked like VSL?  My ashtray above or the typical Val St. Lambert mark?


Val St. Lambert was my initial thought on this piece when I saw the mark but I've never seen a hand scribed Val St. Lambert signature, and I've never seen a Val St. Lambert mart that was VAL.  VSL, yes, but not VAL.

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Anne on September 03, 2010, 06:20:59 PM

I read the mark you posted above as VSL not VAL... does that clarify it cubby?

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: cubby01 on September 03, 2010, 07:03:18 PM

Thanks Anne, I'm having a hard time getting VSL out of it but if it is VSL then it might make more sense.   I did find some examples online of hand scribed Val St Lambert and a couple which looked like it could be a hand scribed VSL as well.

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: johnphilip on September 03, 2010, 09:14:53 PM

I have quite a few hock glasses marked VSL i cant say that looks the same .

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: glassobsessed on September 03, 2010, 10:29:56 PM

This was on a candlestick: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11834

John

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Anne on September 03, 2010, 10:52:07 PM

Checking in Glass fact file a-z (Ivo Haanstra) Ivo says that both Val St Lambert and VSL are used as marks, amongst others. Ivo gives an example of the VSL mark, but as JP said about his, it's not like the mark on this piece.

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: cubby01 on September 05, 2010, 01:32:25 AM

ok, so not a Val St. Lambert, who are other candidates that made crystal like this and signed them?  It seems to be a nice heavy piece of crystal even though it's still an ashtray.  I try to trace the flow of the signature and I not sure it's Val at all , maybe Vol, Vou, Voi, Veu, ...

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: Cathy B on September 07, 2010, 12:28:46 PM

If not VSL, it looks like Vae to me.

Title: Re: Crystal signature ID please... Val or something similar.
Post by: cubby01 on September 07, 2010, 02:21:35 PM

Thanks Cathy, Tried that initially but I'll do some more searches with 'Vae'