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Title: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 06, 2010, 06:49:02 PM
I'd like to see the (presumably) metal body that partners this small hood - in fact I would also like to own the lower half :)   Will someone please point me in the right direction to find an illustration, which will no doubt be in a Borske catalogue for the late 1950's - 1960's.  The height of the hood is 115mm/4.5 inches.   All replies appreciated, and my thanks for looking. :)
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 06, 2010, 06:50:52 PM
Sorry, just realized I'm probably showing the hood upside down :-[
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 06, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
That's okay. Standing on one's head is said to be invigorating, but it just made me dizzy ;)
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Anne on September 06, 2010, 11:09:09 PM
My Moderator's wand can rescue t'other Anne from the dizzies by adding a copy of the pic the other way up. :thup: Voila!  :usd:
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 07, 2010, 09:22:30 AM
thanks Anne, but now I feel that I'm suffering from weightlessness   :usd:
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: GlassIsGood on September 07, 2010, 10:50:35 AM
/ɯoɔ˙ʇxǝʇuʍopǝpısdn˙ʍʍʍ//:dʇʇɥ pɐǝɥ ɹnoʎ uo ƃuıpuɐʇs ǝɹɐ noʎ uǝɥʍ ǝʇısqǝʍ sıɥʇ pǝǝu noʎ
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Jindra8526 on September 07, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Looking from up or down, this piece is not Borské sklo and not Czech/Czechoslovakian origin

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: dirk. on September 07, 2010, 04:42:10 PM
Perhaps german then. Moulded designs were e.g. made by Joska and Horhusen glassworks. The colour wouldn´t be
unusual for german 60´s glass either.
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Carolyn Preston on September 07, 2010, 04:46:28 PM
/ɯoɔ˙ʇxǝʇuʍopǝpısdn˙ʍʍʍ//:dʇʇɥ pɐǝɥ ɹnoʎ uo ƃuıpuɐʇs ǝɹɐ noʎ uǝɥʍ ǝʇısqǝʍ sıɥʇ pǝǝu noʎ

How did you do that? Was it magic?  :ooh:

Carolyn
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: GlassIsGood on September 07, 2010, 05:01:09 PM
Ha, Ha, It's easy to create - Google upside down text (you can also do back to front).  You go to a web site - type what you want into the box and then copy the text where-ever you fancy.  IME you can't do some capital letters though.


ɥƃnoɥʇ sɹǝʇʇǝl lɐʇıdɐɔ ǝɯos op ʇ,uɐɔ noʎ ƎWI  ˙ʎɔuɐɟ noʎ ɹǝʌǝ-ǝɹǝɥʍ ʇxǝʇ ǝɥʇ ʎdoɔ uǝɥʇ puɐ xoq ǝɥʇ oʇuı ʇuɐʍ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ǝdʎʇ - ǝʇıs qǝʍ ɐ oʇ oƃ noʎ  ˙(ʇuoɹɟ oʇ ʞɔɐq op oslɐ uɐɔ noʎ) ʇxǝʇ uʍop ǝpısdn ǝlƃooפ - ǝʇɐǝɹɔ oʇ ʎsɐǝ s,ʇI 'ɐH 'ɐH

In explanation I understand that it maps the letters you type to system generated font shapes that any PC should be able to reproduce.
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 07, 2010, 05:25:13 PM
oh gosh  -  goofed again then :-[    I saw this across a crowded boot sale room, and considered that both the 'blue' and the large olives patterning were identical to my other Borske blown large olives vases.      The feel of the olives also seemed 'right'.  Mark Hill's book states lamp shades, but I guess he didn't mean oil lamp shades.    So there you have it......colour, feel, and pattern.... never mind, I think it was only Sterling £0.50, so it can be taken back to the charity shop without any great loss.   thanks to all, especially the cryptographer :)
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Jindra8526 on September 08, 2010, 01:40:47 PM
Paul, the set of Borske sklo, optical decoration you can find in CGR 1959/11
http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/Glasrevue19591112?authkey=Gv1sRgCLzUuOG_8KjEHw#

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 08, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
thanks Jindrich  -  and believe you have provided these very useful pictures previously. :)     However, is it possible for you to show me the 'lamp shades' that are mentioned in Mark Hill's book - but do not appear you your link today.?    By the way, some of those lamp worked animal figures are the best I've seen.  Paul S.
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Jindra8526 on September 09, 2010, 06:29:52 AM
I found something very simmilar here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Seltene-Vase-Petrolglas-WMF-Wagenfeld-Design-um-1930-/190397961097?pt=Design_Stil&hash=item2c549a5389

Possibly our German friends could help us to investigate this direction.

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Anik R on September 09, 2010, 07:58:49 AM
Paul, if I were you, I wouldn't return it to the charity shop!  It's a perfectly beautiful lamp piece even if it isn't Czech.  And, if it is indeed, WMF, then I think it's worth keeping all the more.  

Don't give it back.  PLEASE DON'T.  Find a place for it.  Eventually you may find the missing parts.  Then it will be a wonderful piece to have and perhaps even use.  

Think about it.
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 09, 2010, 11:45:09 AM
Jindrich - sincere thanks for your ebay link, and although your 'vase' is similar, I believe the shape of the olives and colourway on my 'lamp hood' are possibly from a different source. :)   Regret also  'meine Deutsch is sehr kleine fur verstehhen' - which is supposed to say that 'Ich habe meine Deutsch vergessen'. :-[ - so I can't quite understand what the text says.    However, I appreciate your point......just that I remain surprised that with the similarity of my 'lamp hood' to my blue Borske 'Olives' vase, there isn't a real connection.  Never mind, as you suggest maybe someone with more German knowledge will recognize this little hood.

all my life wimmin have pushed me around - telling me what to do - and I come here to the GMB for a little peace and quiet, and what do I get but "don't get rid of this - don't get rid of that".........Anik, I'm only kidding :-*....for you, especially, I will keep it always, I promise. :)
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Anik R on September 09, 2010, 12:19:53 PM
Dear, that did seem a little bossy on my part.  I've obviously no right to tell you or anyone else what to keep or not keep.  :-[

Pardonne moi.  :kissy:
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: Paul S. on September 09, 2010, 05:05:24 PM
quote today from Anik.......'Dear, that did seem a little bossy on my part.  I've obviously no right to tell you or anyone else what to keep or not keep'.   ..........forget it kid, you're doing great, just be yourself. ;)..   However, I still would like the rest of my lamp, whatever its origin. ;D
Title: Re: ????? lamp base for Borske Sklo Olives hood
Post by: dirk. on September 09, 2010, 06:26:43 PM
Concerning that ebay-auction:
It´s absolutely unnecessary to understand anything from it, because it´s complete humbug. This vase surely isn´t
Wagenfeld, appears 60´s rather than 30´s - anything´s simply made up. I can´t perfectly rule out that it might be
WMF as this is a colour they used intensely, but that would simply be a fluke in this description I suppose.