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Title: Two Murano vases?
Post by: shineyobjects on September 08, 2010, 03:58:58 PM
I'm new to the glass world so hi everyone! I'm collecting a few pieces here and there picked these up at a pretty good price, I think they are Murano Vases.

Wondering if anyone could give me more information.  ;D

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7079/murd.jpg)

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9576/murona.jpg)
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 08, 2010, 06:31:59 PM
I rather think they might both be Chinese. We need sizes and base shots to help further. You also better posting one item per thread and using the board's attach facility for pictures.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: cubby01 on September 08, 2010, 06:58:41 PM
A 2nd for not Murano.  Based on what's pictured the upper one looks better done but I'm in agreement with Christine with regards to probable origins for both.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: TxSilver on September 08, 2010, 07:15:54 PM
Both are not Murano. The first is Chinese. The second is probably also Chinese.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: shineyobjects on September 08, 2010, 07:52:41 PM
I wernt sure about the second one but I thought it might of been something else, I'll just show the first ones base etc first of all then.

Thanks for the quick replies :)

3 Inches wide at the bottom and 7 inches tall roughly.

Picture of the base.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: shineyobjects on September 09, 2010, 12:52:07 PM
I have a feeling I've got stung out of £20 :(
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: Max on September 09, 2010, 01:30:39 PM
We've all been there Shiney, it's all part of the learning curve.    :cry::thup: :kissy:

Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 09, 2010, 01:34:16 PM
Each perhaps, together no, because the retail price is probably the same or more. Murano is a minefield because everyone claims everything is Murano.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: vidrioguapo on September 09, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
I was in TK Maxx yesterday, and they have similar new glass there.  I have to say, some of it is really gorgeous, huge sizes and fab colours..........and very reasonably priced too.  Didn't buy 'cos I like some provenance to my glass, but it is certainly stylish!
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: shineyobjects on September 09, 2010, 04:24:32 PM
Thanks guys, So how would I tell if these was real murano vases by looking at the base? Is the base normally flat and smooth without the cut out dip??
I wonder why these had a cut outs in the bottom? I picked these both up from the charity shop so I was guessing more than anything. Took the risk and lost ;) I need to study more.
 :nogos:

Apart from that the red vase does have a nice smooth base but I can't see it being anything else damn chinese vases! Yep I payed £20 for the pair.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: Anik R on September 09, 2010, 04:41:33 PM
We've all been there Shiney, it's all part of the learning curve.    :cry::thup: :kissy:

... and some of us are still there, Shiney...  :pb:

Don't be so hard on yourself.   :kissy:
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: TxSilver on September 09, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
The base is not a good diagnostic criterion for Chinese glass anymore. Most I've seen recently has been smoothly polished and quite nice. The only way I know to guard against buying Chinese is to know the piece of glass. Chinese glass is made to look like other types, e.g. Murano, Scandinavian, Czech, so it can be quite deceiving. Yesterday I checked on a few pages of glass being sold as Murano on eBay. The majority of pieces being offered were not Murano.  The category having the most misattributions from what I saw were the little lampwork animals. Vases were also a bad category for misattributions.

The Chinese are very good at what they do and are becoming better. Sometimes it seems like a predator-prey game, where the glassmakers come up with ways to make their glass look more European, and collectors try to learn new ways to avoid their teeth. The sheer quantity of glass that is coming out of China is staggering. The only way I know to avoid Chinese glass is to buy books in one's area of interest. And even then, there is going to be the occasional Oriental bit that sneaks in.  :or: It would be okay if the bit would be collectible soon, but pieces are produced in such quantities that it will take a while. At least the quality is improving, so Chinese pieces are excellent to use for house decoration. One doesn't have to worry about water stains as much.
Title: Re: Two Murano vases?
Post by: shineyobjects on September 10, 2010, 10:09:57 AM
Thanks for getting back to me, Looks like murano glass is going to be hard to get into  :-[

I've just seen my vase on ebay from a seller selling it as murano for £14 looks like theres a few copies out there.