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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on September 15, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
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Looks as though it might be Scandi possibly, appears optically moulded, and with the wavy rim as in the pictures. Good quality ground and polished concave pontil mark, and with fire polished rim. Plenty of wear on the foot, and has this intriguing slightly pale bottle green colour (willowish?). Some external scratches on the sides as you would expect from something that has been around for a while - but oddly, extremely little in the way of water staining on the inside - just a very few feint wave marks about inch or so down and the rest very clear. 5.3/8 inches tall. If anyone does recognise this please do let me know, and thanks for looking. sorry the pics. are a bit off. :)
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Maybe W/Fs Wealdstone range or Stromberg but never seen that colour in Stromberg .
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thanks jp - I think Emmi is absent on holiday - would like it to be W/Fs , so will keep my fingers crossed. :X:
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looks Whitefriars to me
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Hi Paul Emmi has been absent all the years i have known her :ha: :ooh:
Luuuverly gal though and real good with colours wonder what colour she will be when she gets back . :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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jp and dinkelpip - thanks for the input. In fact the guy at the boot sale said he thought this was W/Fs, but I really wasn't sure, so didn't mention it in my post. I only have Lesley Jackson's book on W/Fs, and none of the 'Wealdstone' pieces shown have a wavy top like my vase - so I had rather wandered off that direction. I will now look at the full catalogues to see for myself.
In fact I don't think Emmi has gone too far, so looking forward to her comments when she does surface. Are you suggesting she might badger me into selling my hard won pieces, again - is there no respect for us less mercenary members of the GMB. ;)
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:P Absolutely none at all, Paul. Can't be doing with mercenaries. :angel:
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Hi Paul Emmi has been absent all the years i have known her
LOL! Are you suggesting I have been away with the fairies for all those years John? I probably have .!
As for the vase, I really don't know. It looks as if it should be W/F, colour looks good, but blowed if I have seen it before, and can't find it in any catalogue. I also associate those wavey rims with Stromberg...............hope you've got a shelf for "mystery" items Paul! :ac1:
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thanks for your thoughts Emmi :) - The answer to your question is, yes - I do have a shelf for unattributed items ;D - but being chronically short of patience always, if I can't find an attribution after six months, then unknown pieces mostly get shoved back into the charity shops. However, for those that have age (and scare me that I might be giving away something rare), I do keep for somewhat longer. When you collect too much glass, occasionally some things have to be 'got shot of', otherwise there is no space at all. (As it is, I have things standing inside things standing inside things) :cry:
I haven't seen remotely enough genuine pieces of W/Fs from this period to really know one way or the other - but my thoughts had been that the colour of this vase was perhaps a little too 'watery'. However, even without an id, I don't think this one will get the elbow - it will probably end up in the shed wrapped in bubble. ;)
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I wonder if this could be the same? Looks as if it has a wavey"ish" rim!
http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/cat-60/p03.jpg
You can click on each pic to enlarge, and there is one which seems the same size as yours? What do you think?
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uhmmm....thanks for the pics. and there is certainly a strong resemblance to No. 9363, which is shown with a height of 5.5 inches. I have rechecked my vase, but can't stretch the height to any more than the figure I gave initially - I don't know what leeway there might have been in the original data, so perhaps it was give or take a bit. My piece would also appear to have a greater 'waviness' than the piece in your link - although when you look at the line drawings in your link, it seems different again. Certainly there seems a strong similarity, and if the original pieces did have tolerances in certain areas, then yes I could be persuaded. What colour are your pics. representing, and what date was that catalogue? Thanks your help by the way - it's yours for seventy four pounds nineteen shillings and fourpence threefarthings plus purchase tax. :)
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The catalogue is 1960 ( to be found on www.whitefriars.org) ............the colour for this as per catalogue should be Ocean Green.............yours looks more like Sea Green to me from the photograph, but it was a time of change over in colours (1960), and you will see from the link I gave you they have been crossed out (meaning discontinued), so it is possible (if indeed this is the right vase) that it was also in the 1959 cat, in which case it would have been Sea Green. So far no cats available for 1958 and 1959. The height would likely be OK, there's hardly a difference and within reasonable tolerances I should say.
Thanks for your most generous offer, but will pass on this occasion! :kissy:
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deleted as went in twice
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What Ho! This might be of help, I think Emmi is correct but I think it is Ocean Green. Wuidart is out as it is not a Wuidart colour.
Ive attached a pic from the photo album and a pic from my copy of the '60 catalogue. Wolfie
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thanks Wolfie - have to say that apart from the blindingly obvious designs, I'm rather green (no pun intended) re these non Baxter pieces.
Apart from the colour - about which I know Emmi is much respected - I am not very well up on these pale sea green/willow type shades. But I was more unsure about the 'waviness' or otherwise of the top of my piece. Sometimes, looking at the W/Fs catalogue pics. I get left a bit confused. So - are you saying that you feel my vase is almost certainly W/Fs, and that you believe the colour is Ocean Green? thanks Paul S.
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What Ho! These are not that common and I don't have one but my answer is a swift 'Yes'! Are you coming to the Cambridge glass fair? If so bring it along. Wolfie
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It looks Sea Green on my monitor. I have also found it in the 1957 catalogue, where it is definitely Sea Green for that year. As it is crossed out in the 1960 catalogue, where the "green" would have been Ocean Green, then I will stick to my original thoughts on the colour. But of course a hands on look at it would be the best thing. Go on Paul , come to Cambridge!