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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Pinkspoons on December 19, 2005, 02:56:27 PM
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Or I assume it's a bowl of some kind? It's a bit big and a lot heavy for a drinking glass - even a greedy person's drinking glass.
I bought it in a lot of definitely Holmegaard pieces (all recognisable, signed or labelled) - and this is too, allegedly. But it's unsigned and I've never seen one before. It has a polished circular inverted pontil, which although not unknown on Holmegaard, isn't particularly common. It also has a nice tactile rounded rim. It's 14cm tall and weighs in at a little over 880g.
Any ideas? I've seen some JE Bang pieces from the 1930's that are not dissimilar in basic form/style, but this feels more 1950's-60's.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/holmegaardbowl1.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/holmegaardbowl2.jpg)
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Quick follow-up:
I had a rummage around, and I only have three pieces of Holmegaard with an inverted pontil; two are 1930's J.E. Bang... and the third is a miniature blue-glass cream jug from the early-mid 1950's - designer unknown.
T'is food for thought, though it doesn't really help pin it down any.
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i know it is Holmegaard, but I cannot add a maker or a time frame for certain. I would think Per Lütken around 1960 - but no paper proof.
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Hi.
I packed one of the 1930's pieces back into storage, but here's a photograph of the other two pieces:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/holmegaard-pontilled.jpg)
Thanks for the Holmegaard confirmation, Ivo. :) I thought that most all Holmegaard (some tableware aside) around the 1950's - to - mid-1970's was signed? Unless this is a greedy person's wine glass after all!
Also, if anyone has any ideas about the little tiny jug, it would be appreciated! :D
Edit:
I was just taking a group photograph of the lot I bought to show a friend, and I noticed that the kluk kluk decanter also has an inverted pontil. I have a few of these (and they all have inverted pontils), but only two are definitely by Holmegaard.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/holmegaard-lot.jpg)
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I have a clear glass Holmegaard kluk-kluk as well (complete with label) and that has an inverted pontil. Hope this helps. :)
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It does, thanks. :)
It's a shame the one I bought recently only has its cork stopper - I much prefer the glass ones. :( But it barely cost me any money, so beggars can't be choosers. :)
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I've never seen one for sale with a cork stopper - all have been glass in my "neck of the woods" so to speak. Incidentally, mine cost my mother (who bought it for me) a whole £1. 8)
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Well from what I understand, Holmegaard produced a lot of the kluk kluks for alcohol manufacturers and you would purchase the decanter full of whiskey or cognac or somesuch booze and it would be stoppered by a cork, but also have the glass stopper that we all know and love in the box that the decanter came in, for use when you'd disposed of the cork stopper. These very occasionally come onto eBay still with box, booze, and the two stoppers - but usually in America (evil postage when the decanter's still full) and always when I'm a little indisposed in the finance department! :oops:
There were also kluk kluks with cork stoppers that had metal tops with a kind of ring-pull. My parents were recently in Spain and found one at a flea market for 6 €, but didn't buy it for me because they hadn't seen one with that stopper before and assumed it wasn't original! :roll:
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Ahhh I see, thanks for the explanation Nic, that's very useful to know.
BTW I'd have assumed the same as your parents! :oops:
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I think I would have even bought it without the stopper. Well, after a bit of haggling! :)
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Edit: Information after this was posted in a seperate thread after the previous posts had been archived. The two threads have since been merged. Thanks Frank.
I did start a thread about this design over a year ago, but it's either vanished into the ether or is carefully evading the search facility. ::)
But back then I bought a compote with a job-lot of Holmegaard pieces, and I was fairly sure it was Holmegaard - as was Ivo, who said that it was almost certainly Per Lutken, circa early 1960s but didn't have any paper evidence to back it up at the time.
Well, hurrah, I found another one with its original pre-65 label, although it's as frustratingly unsigned as my other one.
Compote (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/1-6.jpg)
I'm just wondering if anyone's stumbled across any new information or has seen something similar elsewhere over the last 12+ months. I've only ever seen two of these in my time, and I own both of them! ???
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Ironically - I couldn't find the old thread because it got archived... ;D
Old topic retrieved and new data merged - Moderator
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Whilst looking for something else entirely (as is often the case), I came across a drinkware set on Replacements called 'Danish Hunter', which bears a striking resemblance to the shape of my compote:
Replacements - Danish Hunter (http://www.replacements.com/webquote/HOLDAH.htm)
It doesn't really show on my photos but there is a knop on the stem of my compote (a lot higher up than on the drinking glasses) which almost blends into the bowl - but the shape of the knop bears more than a passing resemblance to the one in Replacements' illustrations.
Trouble is, I've Googled 'Danish Hunter', and it only brings results from Replacements-related sites. Does anyone know this range by a different name so I can look into it further?
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My gosh, I've got one of those in a box somewhere, Nic. Be patient though - it's somewhere in the garage from hell...
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Thanks for that. There's probably no need for a great garage hunt, though - a bit of further poking around in Holmegaard tableware has turned up that this is a fairly common shape from the early 1900s onwards so Danish Hunter and the compote probably aren't related. ???
Still, it's always nice to know that you can ask the most obscure of questions on here and someone almost always has the correct answer. :)
If you do happen to stumble across the glass & box - please do post the range name here. :)
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Stems are quite different anyway, Nic.
Cheers!
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I know, but I was hoping that the overall style might be specific to one period and so that looking into Danish Hunter might lead me to an approximate date for the compote.
Alas not.