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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Trinket Sets => Topic started by: Paul S. on September 30, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
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the tray I bought because I thought straight lines seemed unusual, and the clear part set I grabbed a bit too hurriedly as I thought it was perhaps Krys-Tol. Not my scene at all really, and they will go out again fairly quickly - but just before they do, anyone think they maybe of any particular interest. I have looked through both Pamela's and Anne's pics., but don't think I saw them. :)
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The top one is Walther and either Greta or Hubertus
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I can't find ID's for any of these pieces. Christine, where did you see the top one as Walther please?
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Pamela's friend's catalogues - no time to look now. I have a green one
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thanks for your replies. Accompanying the clear pieces was a small (about 75mm/3" long) scalloped-edged pin tray, with 'C' in a diamond - which I understand is for Cambridge in Ohio (US) - and think they ceased in about the mid '50's. The woman at the boot sale would not let me buy this pin tray on its own, so had to purchase all of the pieces - and then had the thought about 'Krys-Tol' Did still wonder whether these clear pieces might also have been US production - but now fairly sure they aren't 'Krys-Tol'. They have a simplicity of design unlike the usual very fussy patterns of most trinkets that I see. But then again, as we know, they could be from anywhere. :)
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Christine, I'll go re-check, Ta!
Paul, my gut feeling was American, very Chippendale / Krys-Tol in style - I'll go rummage and see what I can find but it'll be a couple of days before I can - have a busy weekend ahead here.
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Anne - yes, agree they do have a rather Chipendale 'ish look. No hurry whatsoever :) as a MAN, I don't really 'do' trinkets sets (bit like 'swans' - they seem girlie ;)) - just that occasionally I pick one up if it looks unusual. I do of course have the 'Krys-Tol' book, so I will go back and have another look. Thanks for your help as always, have a good weekend and hear from you next week perhaps.
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:hi: Paul,
Christine's right, here is Greta: http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1933.34+B6YmFja1BJRD0zNCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MTM0MyZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD0zNCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
If it really has to go, can I please purchase it for my collection? :rah:
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thanks Pamela - will send you an email off the board if I may - tomorrow please. Trying to post something else desperately, so that I can then go and sit to watch tv with my OH. She has this funny idea that I'm ignoring her by spending evenings talking to other women. ;)
Just been trawling your Master Books - re the clear part set above - and hadn't before realized that some of the early Brockwitz designs also had a simple sort of 'cathedral window' panelled look (with a curved top to the panel). So guess it is possible that these clear pieces might even be Brockwitz. Head ache now so will look again over the weekend - unless my wife demands even more of me. :phew:
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Paul, the clear items could well also be a marriage - this pattern is global, who can tell ? :-\
German only:
Walther: Rheingold and Roland
Streit: New York
Brockwitz: Chicago
Adlerhütten: # 9016
Bernsdorf: Ilse and Schlesien
Your tray is 'more even-sided' octagonal than any other I've seen and the star in the base is different from those in the boxes...
Same as 'wickerwork' patterns I gave up long ago to attribute these Chippendales :pb: :pb: :pb: :ooh:
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bit of a postscript to the 'unknown part set above - and picked up another almost complete set mid week (lacking I think a lid only to one of the twin pots). Whilst the tray shape and the star outline are different - the pin tray is again present, and it is impressed with the same 'C' at the part set (sorry, it's not in a diamond - it's in a triangle) - so, think this should prove conclusively that both sets are States manufacture by Cambridge Glass Co. (1901 - 1957). This most recent acquisition is slightly 'sun-purpled' - I'm seeing it everywhere now. Question please........in the oval shaped pot there are two supports with cut outs to support what......anyone know. The entire set is pressed - no grinding or cutting anywhere.
Hope of interest, and thanks for looking. :)
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Paul
could it be a soap dish avoiding greasy dampening?
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I would defer to your wisdom any day Pamela - but today is not the day ;D No, I would have thought not - these little crescent cut outs appear to be specifically for something 'pencil' shaped possibly ::) But I don't really know. :)
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Paul, how unusual to find more of the same pattern when it's such a stranger to us. The dish with the supports: like Pamela I thought of soap too but the indents have me puzzled. Are the cut outs both the same size? It's hard to tell from your picture.
If these are Cambridge I think one of our US members would know... let me tweak the title to catch their eyes.
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http://countryjoescollectiblestuff.com/raz-01.html Mod: Dead link - suggestion was the bowl was to hold a wet razor
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Ahhhh Pamela, I think you've sussed it! :hiclp:
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thanks girls - I'm sure you're right. And here's me thinking that real ladies never needed to shave :24: Am I right in thinking that this particular accompaniment to the set is unusual, or was it a States thing only. :)
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I think what you have are table pieces that someone used for the vanity. The scalloped bowl or nappy could hold butter or berries. In old catalogs trays were offered alone as "candy trays" and of course people could use them however they wanted. Vanity sets here were perfume bottles, and a dish sometimes on a matching tray.
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thanks for your valuable reply Janice. What intrigued me was the fact that twice within a matter of weeks I had found what had seemed two identical trinket sets (or at least parts of) both of which included one of these small scalloped bowls or nappys - so of course being a bit dim I had rushed to the conclusion that the complete set was designed to deliberately have one. However, as you suggest, probably not intentionally designed as such, and just an optional add on. I really know nothing of these things, but was also intrigued by the fact that one of these sets has something I had not previously seen i.e. the lidded container believed to be for the 'lady's razor'. thanks again. I couldnt purposfully collect these things - the footprint is way too big for me - which bit of a shame, as in my travels I see some really beautiful part sets and trays that are works of art. thanks again. :)
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Does anyone know which Cambridge Glass Co. USA pattern the clear sets may be? I have been searching but can't seem to pin it down.
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Paul your pieces look like these in this 1923 British American Glass (BAG) advert, BAG is believed to have been an importer of glassware. :)
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