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Title: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on October 04, 2010, 12:02:17 PM

Hi can anyone provide me any additional information on the item below its a brown streaky ashtray looks like Whitefriars?????? but not a catalogued item

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: chriscooper on October 04, 2010, 01:21:00 PM

Hi,  the shape look VSL ish but normally signed, also seen these described as Czech, what's the base like? a top side and base shot normally helps, sold a lot of Whitefriars over the years and it's not something I have seen but have learn to 'never say never' but personally I would say probably not. Not much help but maybe a starter for others to comment.
Oh nearly forgot  :or:  :pb:

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Max on October 04, 2010, 01:33:48 PM

Dunno.  It does look like a streaky...I suppose there's always a chance it's WF even though it's not catalogued.  Can we have a shot of the base please? 

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: chriscooper on October 04, 2010, 01:52:49 PM

Hi Max, what 'streaky' do you think it looks like?  :sun:
Chris

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 04, 2010, 02:23:38 PM

The base will be polished flat with a triangular pontil mark - seen a few of these recently. IMHO the base finish discounts WF - even as an uncatlalogued oddity.

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: vidrioguapo on October 04, 2010, 02:27:14 PM

I had contact from the seller prior to listing, and certainly did not commit to a Whitefriars ID. I too thought the triangular mark on the base was unusaly - even it had been a frigger I feel fairly certain it would have had a usual ground, polished and circular pontil mark

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Max on October 04, 2010, 03:37:54 PM

Chris said

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Hi Max, what 'streaky' do you think it looks like?

Chris...if it had been a frigger from WF, it wouldn't have to conform to any particular colour combination.  :)

Nic and Emmi...you obviously have more information than me (so true!).  I haven't seen any of these around...is this particular one on Ebay at the moment Emmi?

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: chriscooper on October 04, 2010, 04:22:37 PM

Quote from: Max on October 04, 2010, 03:37:54 PM

Chris said
Chris...if it had been a frigger from WF, it wouldn't have to conform to any particular colour combination.  :)

Thanks Max :sun: thought " it does look like a streaky" meant you thought it looked a streaky WF piece in particular I didn't suggest it looks like any particular colour

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: johnphilip on October 04, 2010, 04:39:10 PM

Naaahhh . :tof:

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: vidrioguapo on October 04, 2010, 05:56:54 PM

It was on ebay last week Max!  Looks like Symon has bought it.

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 04, 2010, 07:05:33 PM

And lifted the image from the auction too - I know the seller, and I thought I recognised the windowsill.  ::)

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Max on October 04, 2010, 07:09:47 PM

Er...Symon, is that your photo?  If it's not we have to remove it due to copyright issues.   :-\

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:29:41 AM

more pictures

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:39:55 AM

pic 1

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:40:36 AM

pic 2

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:41:22 AM

pic 3

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:42:03 AM

pic 4

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 11:46:07 AM

The colours texture and weight or the other streakys are very similar from left to right

1718 grams
1719 grams
1782 grams
1710 grams

all 3 vases have round pontil but the first item has a clear triangular pontil

i cant find anything else like it!

Title: Re: Whitefriars Ashtray Streaky Brown
Post by: rocco on February 11, 2012, 12:22:48 PM

I would think "Lux Glass" Austria could be the maker of this ashtray (although your pics are a little too small to see any details).

Link 1 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/1-7-kg-Kristall-Schale-Sommerso-Lux-Glass-Austria-/110616577391?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item19c143056f) showing a very similar piece with green streaking.
Link 2 (http://www.willhaben.at/iad/viewimage?adId=35818465) a vase in a colourway like yours.

Michael