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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: shineyobjects on October 05, 2010, 11:06:54 AM
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Now, I'm slowly building my knowledge thanks to you guys! Got some books on the way!
I picked this up at a small dealers which deals alot of bits and bobs for a small sum of £15. It has a Bohemian colour but I can't find any Bohemian designs like it and seems 19th-20th century, it seems to have a polished pontil at the base. I'm not sure what the effect is called around the glass I'm wondering if anyone could tell me :)
I feel bad hogging up the boards lately hehe.
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Are you sure it has a polished pontil; just looks like a mould blown base to me. I would doubt that it was 19th century or Bohemian either, but I could be wrong.
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My mistake its a mold blown base I've just learnt something. :)
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Now you can learn another something new.
A pontil rod (or punty) is the long hollow metal rod glass is blown on.
No bits of glass have "a pontil" on them. :P
They have pontil marks or pontil scars, left behind by the pontil rod.
bug-bear of mine.
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I might forget that ;) hehe
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:P
I suppose, to be completely accurate, only HOT bits of glass have pontils on them.
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hmm . doesn`t look bohemian to me - not a " bohemian " colour either :sm:
it reminds of some french stuff :fr:
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I thought the light shade of blue was bohemian, i'm just going to hide and cry now.
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do not cry and do not hide :ooh: :cry:
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If you do, I can't reach to wallop you when you deliberately provoke!
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Hehe, I don't think its French. :'(
Do you know what the effect is called maybe after 10 hours of searching I'll find out hehe.
Me provoke! never only if I had more glass with pontils.
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This glass is really bugging me, I can't find nothing alike! The honeycomb effect reminds me of Loetz Nautilus I know its not hehe. I'm going to give up all hope on it soon :'(
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:) Comments on Sue's "bug-bear" ...
A pontil rod (or punty) is the long hollow metal rod glass is blown on.
No bits of glass have "a pontil" on them.
Well ... actually, a pontil is a solid iron rod. A blowing iron is the one that is hollow. But leaving that point aside ... the "pontil" / "pontil scar" thing has been 'cleared up' in the Quarter 3, 2010 issue of the 'PCA Newsletter' [it's to do with paperweights]. Drew Ebelhare, "PCA, Inc. Artist Representative", politely corrected a correspondent's spelling with the following ... "Puntel" is "Pontil", or "Punty" in slang glassblower terminology. It is also not a "Pontil Rod" as a pontil is a rod so that would be like calling it a Rod, rod.
So there you have it. We must not say "pontil rod".
Sue qualified her own second comment with: I suppose, to be completely accurate, only HOT bits of glass have pontils on them.
Probably not true, Sue! It might be possible to have a pontil with a lump of cold glass on it - not in normal use, of course, but it could happen. That assumes, of course, that a gather of glass will not automatically fall off the pontil when it all goes cold. But perhaps it will? What do I know? Not a lot. :)
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Perhaps I shouldn't embark on long wordy sentences or explanations while I'm still all :thud: from the conference - thanks for putting me right. :-[
But the mark on the base of a bit of glass is NOT a pontil.