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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: heartofsklo on October 12, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
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Red and Yellow painted outer and base marked with a black cirle with "CZECHO followed by, MADE IN and followed by SLOVAKIA. Rounded edge to base. Does the base give any clues to an age and maker?
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I've had a look thru Ruth A. Forsythe's book, and if the sequence of words in your mark are correct, then Forsythe has nothing that really matches. Several that start with 'MADE IN etc. but none like yours. I would therefore suggest as a bit of a stab in the dark that your vase is very late 'deco' - late 1930's to perhaps the late '40's even. Regrettably, there is nothing in the book that stylistically matches your design either, despite the fact that something as angular as your vase would be thought to be late '20's to mid '30's. The rounded edge to the base is common place with a lot of similar pieces, so is probably of little or no help. Don't I seem to remember Jindrich having some catalogue pages of reference to these things in recent times?? :)
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I've had a look thru Ruth A. Forsythe's book, and if the sequence of words in your mark are correct, then Forsythe has nothing that really matches. Several that start with 'MADE IN etc. but none like yours. I would therefore suggest as a bit of a stab in the dark that your vase is very late 'deco' - late 1930's to perhaps the late '40's even. Regrettably, there is nothing in the book that stylistically matches your design either, despite the fact that something as angular as your vase would be thought to be late '20's to mid '30's. The rounded edge to the base is common place with a lot of similar pieces, so is probably of little or no help. Don't I seem to remember Jindrich having some catalogue pages of reference to these things in recent times?? :)
Thanks Paul, I thought that it looked more deco than modern. At first I thought it was etched but on close examination it is paint that looks like acid etched.
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your passion for my words is touching - but there is no need to re-quote them in full, normally :) Looking again at Forsythe's book, the lady speaks of the marks as being "Acid Etched, Ink Stamped, molded (?)" - and in the light of this maybe your mark is possibly Ink Stamped - but I could be wrong. Correctly, the word 'Czechoslovakia' (during the period that Forsythe's book deals with), should be hyphenated - although I understand that post '45 this was dropped. However, the name can be found in many instances post 1918 as a single word - so not perhaps reliable for dating. :)
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I would date the piece to the late 20's - early 30's based on the shape and decor of the enamel.
Most marks on Czech glass are typically quite unreliable for time frame...... and most of them are believed to be exporter applied, not factory marks. As an example, I have images of Loetz Ausf 140 pieces that are marked with a stamp which is definitely not a Loetz stamp and says "Made in Czechoslovakia".
Typically, hyphenated Czecho-Slovakia is supposed to point to the 1920's, but it is not something that can be used to accurately date a piece. The use of the country name Czechoslovakia really only safely indicates post 1918 production, and after that you really need to look to the glass itself to try to determine time frame.
As another example, post 1914 US law required that a stamp say "Made In", yet large quantities of glass produced in Czechoslovakia imported to the US do not bear these words, and say just Czechoslovakia.
By the late 30's and early to mid 40's many of these companies were gone or failing. Post WWI, (late 40's) it is my understanding there was not a huge amount of export due to the Soviet occupation and nationalization of the glass industry.
Craig
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Thanks Craig, extremely informative and will no doubt help many, not only myself :rah: