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Title: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 05:51:51 PM
just bought this piece of glass is it whitefriars i have looked and cant find it anywhere i can find similar but not the same
its about3 inches high sterling silver base with hb in a shield
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/th_100_7251.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7251.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/th_100_7252.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7252.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/th_100_7253.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7253.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/th_100_7255.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7255.jpg)
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: johnphilip on October 16, 2010, 06:57:34 PM
100% not Whitefriars far more interesting . >:D
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
tease, lol please put me out of my misery
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: Greg. on October 16, 2010, 08:33:16 PM
Looking at the silver marks, more than likely going to be continental. Scandinavian is also a possibility.
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 16, 2010, 08:42:37 PM
Possibly an odd question, but did you buy it from Hemswell market?
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 08:59:55 PM
Possibly an odd question, but did you buy it from Hemswell market?
No bought it at retford not to far away so might have somthing to do with it still no one going to tell me :huh:
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 16, 2010, 09:06:55 PM
Ah, this was probably mine then - I shifted it at Hemswell last weekend in my bi-annual attic clearout.

My own instinct was that it was, once, a taller vase that had been broken and then ground down because the rim cuts right through the textured pattern. I also felt that the silver base was a later addition, possibly also to mask further damage.

The design is very familiar, but I never bothered to spend time looking into it because of my concerns mentioned above.
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 09:24:20 PM
Ah, this was probably mine then - I shifted it at Hemswell last weekend in my bi-annual attic clearout.

My own instinct was that it was, once, a taller vase that had been broken and then ground down because the rim cuts right through the textured pattern. I also felt that the silver base was a later addition, possibly also to mask further damage.

The design is very familiar, but I never bothered to spend time looking into it because of my concerns mentioned above.
it looks like some czechoslovakian hermanova glass
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: flying free on October 16, 2010, 09:33:39 PM
I don't know what it is, but the colour and the geometric patterning 'remind' me of Ruda Glasbruk pieces I have seen. However, I've not seen any in person that I can remember and I think they seem to be thicker glass somehow, and I can't see your pics that clearly to compare.  I wonder why someone would put a solid silver casing on a vase that was damaged?  It would have to have some special significance perhaps?  either a good piece that once was, or sentimental value maybe I guess.
m
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: vidrioguapo on October 16, 2010, 09:41:07 PM
My first thought was Ruda..........as you say the photos aren't great , the colour is ruda "ish" too! But the Silver base seems out of context somehow!
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 09:48:10 PM
Ah, this was probably mine then - I shifted it at Hemswell last weekend in my bi-annual attic clearout.

My own instinct was that it was, once, a taller vase that had been broken and then ground down because the rim cuts right through the textured pattern. I also felt that the silver base was a later addition, possibly also to mask further damage.

The design is very familiar, but I never bothered to spend time looking into it because of my concerns mentioned above.
you might be right but like flying free said why go to the trouble to put a silver base on. i must have a look up to hemswell
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: flying free on October 16, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
does the vase go right down into the silver casing?  i.e is it 'footed' sort of where it indents at the bottom?  I think there are Ruda bowls that have a 'foot' bit.  Not saying it is Ruda, but just a thought that it may have been a bowl perhaps?  how tall is it?  Also I'm not sure that colour is a Czech 'colour' but could be wrong.  But I do recall some discussion about a vase , I think called a 'pineapple' vase or something, that had triangular prunts/pattern  on it.  The discussion was about whether or not it was a Sklo Union vase if I recall correctly,  and I think that might have been attributed to possibly having been German in the end - that might have been this blue type colour as well (there was definitely one in a green but think there might have been one in a dark blue :spls:).
m
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: Anne on October 16, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
Click the images to see larger versions. :thup:
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 16, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
The vase is cased glass - blue in clear - which would surely discount SU pressed ware?

I thought Ruda too - but couldn't find a match for the pattern.
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: flying free on October 16, 2010, 10:10:05 PM
yes it would Nic.  I just couldn't tell from the pics whether or not it was  pressed and was just answering Stew's comment about the similarities to  it being Hermanova Hut glass.  I think there is a Finnish? glass company that also did this blue type colour with texture/patterns.  I'll see if I can find it and have a look.
m
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 16, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
yes it would Nic.  I just couldn't tell from the pics whether or not it was  pressed and was just answering Stew's comment about the similarities to  it being Hermanova Hut glass.  I think there is a Finnish glass company that also did this blue type colour with texture/patterns.  I'll see if I can find it and have a look.
m
it seems to fit the silver base very well sorry about the pics its either my eyes or my camera probs me eyes
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on October 21, 2010, 01:46:23 PM
put it on ebay today find out if its good or bad someones going to get a bargain.
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: flying free on April 30, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
I was wondering if this vase may have been by Gralglas.  I spotted two vases on Dirk's photosite that had silver bases in what I recall may have been the blue of this vase - unfortunately the pics have now disappeared though.
Link below to what may have been similar vases
https://picasaweb.google.com/108140812446658939096/Gralglas#5595368276133637202
m
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on September 22, 2011, 03:00:04 PM
I was wondering if this vase may have been by Gralglas.  I spotted two vases on Dirk's photosite that had silver bases in what I recall may have been the blue of this vase - unfortunately the pics have now disappeared though.
Link below to what may have been similar vases
https://picasaweb.google.com/108140812446658939096/Gralglas#5595368276133637202
m
hi flying free i think you might be right with maker but whether the one i had was just a candle holder or cut down i dont know. i have seen smaller ones without the silver bases
thanks again for still looking
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: flying free on December 06, 2011, 11:37:57 PM
Stew your pics have disappeared.  I've just seen a thread where the designer has been id'd as Emil Funke
 for Gralglas (link thread here - http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,27638.msg150840.html#msg150840.)  Can you reinstate the pic please if you still have it?
Many thanks
m
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on December 07, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
if i can find them had a major melt down with other pc dont know is it has saved. i know the one you are on about thought mine had been cut down because of damage.
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: stew2u2 on December 07, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
found them dont know if you can see them it it says missing link but when i click on them the pic comes up
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7255.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7255.jpg)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7254.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7254.jpg)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7253.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7253.jpg)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7252.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7252.jpg)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7251.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7251.jpg)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7250.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/stewtoyou/?action=view&current=100_7250.jpg)
Title: Re: whitefriars glass ?
Post by: BLUE HARVEST on April 17, 2012, 10:57:56 PM
It is by Gral glass.